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I mean US still has the torture chambers of Guantanamo bay, not to mention all the war crimes and “collateral” damage from the wars and “special operations” ove

I mean US still has the torture chambers of Guantanamo bay, not to mention all the war crimes and “collateral” damage from the wars and “special operations” over the years. So really at least Saudis got backlash and had to absolve their king, US ignored the backlash and continues injustice. At least the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are over, but every day the US military apparatus gains blood on its hands, even if indirectly (I’m thinking specifically sanctions targeted at Afghanistan, among other unjust things the US supports).

recuter 4y ago
https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/war-yemen https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/war-yem... It is not possible for a country in the position of the US to not get its hands dirty, this isn't a touchy feel world. You are engaging is false equivocation.
- erenyeager 4y ago
  False equivocation? Certainly the US doesn’t need to get involved or hands dirty with everything; this is a choice by its leaders. It is a government policy to enable such cruelty and use soft power to manipulate perceptions. The false equivocation is calling out other countries when similar or worse atrocities have been carried out by the Us and there still are no reparations, restitutions, or repercussions to dissuade continued US aggression and transgression. I am all for scrutiny of governments, but to leverage one against another while ignoring or downplaying, it is not a real argument, it’s optics.
  - recuter 4y ago
    The comparison is between countries with wildly different roles in the world my friend. It is not apt.
    - erenyeager 4y ago
      That type of belief is, in my opinion, self-serving and a way to justify geopolitical hierarchies. You may as well say the quiet part out loud that people from weaker countries are worth less.
      - recuter 4y ago
        I am not American. People in weaker countries are geopolitically worth less. Geopolitical hierarchies don't need to be justified, simply observed. It is not as if the rest of the planet will simply fall into line with your Kumbaya attitude, so empty moralizing rhetoric is self-serving, sorry.
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recuter 4y ago

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/war-yemen https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/war-yem... It is not possible for a country in the position of the US to not get its hands dirty, this isn't a touchy feel world. You are engaging is false equivocation.

erenyeager 4y ago
False equivocation? Certainly the US doesn’t need to get involved or hands dirty with everything; this is a choice by its leaders. It is a government policy to enable such cruelty and use soft power to manipulate perceptions. The false equivocation is calling out other countries when similar or worse atrocities have been carried out by the Us and there still are no reparations, restitutions, or repercussions to dissuade continued US aggression and transgression. I am all for scrutiny of governments, but to leverage one against another while ignoring or downplaying, it is not a real argument, it’s optics.
- recuter 4y ago
  The comparison is between countries with wildly different roles in the world my friend. It is not apt.
  - erenyeager 4y ago
    That type of belief is, in my opinion, self-serving and a way to justify geopolitical hierarchies. You may as well say the quiet part out loud that people from weaker countries are worth less.
    - recuter 4y ago
      I am not American. People in weaker countries are geopolitically worth less. Geopolitical hierarchies don't need to be justified, simply observed. It is not as if the rest of the planet will simply fall into line with your Kumbaya attitude, so empty moralizing rhetoric is self-serving, sorry.

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