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Apple declaring war on budget Android phones with low-cost iPhone SE 4

20 points by redbell 4y ago

tomcam 4y ago
I’d like it all to be true but this appears to be little more than wishful thinking.
spicybright 4y ago
Weird conclusion in the article. How is $1000 a budget android? Or $500 for a budget phone for that matter?
- nateb2022 4y ago
  Agreed. The article seems to mention "mid-range," though: > Don’t buy an iPhone SE (2022) now; iPhone SE 4 with modern design coming in 2024 to put an end to Google and Samsung’s mid-range reign
dmonitor 4y ago
Title should probably clarify that Apple has not announced the iPhone SE 4
exabrial 4y ago
Give it a headphone jack and SD card and I'll buy.
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  Exactly, a headphone jack. Apple disqualified itself from budget phone before they even started.
postalrat 4y ago
usb-c and my choice of a web browser and im in
- m463 4y ago
  The only thing that could change the ecosystem for me is being able to load my own software on the phone (without asking permission from apple). I'd like a firewall that could block apple telemetry. Or a (complete) filesystem explorer.
kumarvvr 4y ago
There is no war. A decent Samsung M series or A series phone costs about 150 - 250 USD in India. I am using an A27 for past 2 years. It is absolutely fine. It works well, has a great screen, decent battery life, good set of features. An iPhone would cost well over 450 USD here. iPhones are phenomenally over-priced. An iPhone 14 costs about 3 months of median salary here. I just don't get it.
- ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
  Have you seen Samsung's privacy policy? Holy hell. The financial outlay is only part of the cost.
- touristtam 4y ago
  iPhones are available on contract in most of the West. I don't know anyone around me that buys new devices outright. But considering how powerful are those devices compared to laptop, the price point of ~£1000 of top end isn't completely crazy.
  - MonaroVXR 4y ago
    I use a A53, A52 which is laying right next to me as i am typing and on the left, I have the regular iPhone 12. I aiming at buying a Macbook and Iphone, but since the iPhone isn't much better in the things I do with my phone, I'm not going to buy an iPhone and Macbook. Photos and speakers (macbook) are better but that's just it for me.
    - touristtam 4y ago
      The ecosystem between iPhone and Macbook is second to none, though. Got one from work after years of Linux/Windows, and it is almost flawless. If that stays the same, my next personal laptop will be a macbook.
      - MonaroVXR 4y ago
        I don't have any excuses to buy an iPhone in the very near future, but there's something about it. that makes it more satisfying. Also I need to have a phone with built-in phone recording and Apple doesn't do that. I choose my laptops based on keyboards and the Macbook is on top of my list, but I don't like MacOS. though I am supporting people in the Apple ecosystem.
touristtam 4y ago
Biggest draw for me buying a SE mark II, after 3 Xiaomi, was the sub 5" screen size. IF the rumor mill is correct this is going to be a 6.1" device.
- graypegg 4y ago
  I have a 13 mini, and I would love to at least know there will still be a small -screen upgrade path when I’m ready to retire this one in 2-3 years.
  - temp2022account 4y ago
    Agreed, the iPhone mini is the only thing that comes close to my old blackberry which I still pang over having to give up in 2019. Without it I'll probably invest in a good landline & get my social group to understand they can't reach me while I'm out.

20 points by redbell 4y ago

tomcam 4y ago

I’d like it all to be true but this appears to be little more than wishful thinking.

spicybright 4y ago

Weird conclusion in the article. How is $1000 a budget android? Or $500 for a budget phone for that matter?

nateb2022 4y ago
Agreed. The article seems to mention "mid-range," though: > Don’t buy an iPhone SE (2022) now; iPhone SE 4 with modern design coming in 2024 to put an end to Google and Samsung’s mid-range reign

dmonitor 4y ago

Title should probably clarify that Apple has not announced the iPhone SE 4

exabrial 4y ago

Give it a headphone jack and SD card and I'll buy.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
Exactly, a headphone jack. Apple disqualified itself from budget phone before they even started.

postalrat 4y ago

usb-c and my choice of a web browser and im in

m463 4y ago
The only thing that could change the ecosystem for me is being able to load my own software on the phone (without asking permission from apple). I'd like a firewall that could block apple telemetry. Or a (complete) filesystem explorer.

kumarvvr 4y ago

There is no war. A decent Samsung M series or A series phone costs about 150 - 250 USD in India. I am using an A27 for past 2 years. It is absolutely fine. It works well, has a great screen, decent battery life, good set of features. An iPhone would cost well over 450 USD here. iPhones are phenomenally over-priced. An iPhone 14 costs about 3 months of median salary here. I just don't get it.

ThePowerOfFuet 4y ago
Have you seen Samsung's privacy policy? Holy hell. The financial outlay is only part of the cost.
touristtam 4y ago
iPhones are available on contract in most of the West. I don't know anyone around me that buys new devices outright. But considering how powerful are those devices compared to laptop, the price point of ~£1000 of top end isn't completely crazy.
- MonaroVXR 4y ago
  I use a A53, A52 which is laying right next to me as i am typing and on the left, I have the regular iPhone 12. I aiming at buying a Macbook and Iphone, but since the iPhone isn't much better in the things I do with my phone, I'm not going to buy an iPhone and Macbook. Photos and speakers (macbook) are better but that's just it for me.
  - touristtam 4y ago
    The ecosystem between iPhone and Macbook is second to none, though. Got one from work after years of Linux/Windows, and it is almost flawless. If that stays the same, my next personal laptop will be a macbook.
    - MonaroVXR 4y ago
      I don't have any excuses to buy an iPhone in the very near future, but there's something about it. that makes it more satisfying. Also I need to have a phone with built-in phone recording and Apple doesn't do that. I choose my laptops based on keyboards and the Macbook is on top of my list, but I don't like MacOS. though I am supporting people in the Apple ecosystem.

touristtam 4y ago

Biggest draw for me buying a SE mark II, after 3 Xiaomi, was the sub 5" screen size. IF the rumor mill is correct this is going to be a 6.1" device.

graypegg 4y ago
I have a 13 mini, and I would love to at least know there will still be a small -screen upgrade path when I’m ready to retire this one in 2-3 years.
- temp2022account 4y ago
  Agreed, the iPhone mini is the only thing that comes close to my old blackberry which I still pang over having to give up in 2019. Without it I'll probably invest in a good landline & get my social group to understand they can't reach me while I'm out.