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You support Elon? It’s becoming obvious that he is on the Kremlin side nowadays. You can’t even pretend he’s both siding it anymore. He never criticizes Russia

You support Elon? It’s becoming obvious that he is on the Kremlin side nowadays. You can’t even pretend he’s both siding it anymore. He never criticizes Russia interests, and parrots the Kremlin discourse quite consistently. You need to recognize that supporting Musk in 2023 is supporting the Kremlin. Is that really what you want to support?

dougwalker42 4y ago
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kcplate 4y ago
>You need to recognize that supporting Musk in 2023 is supporting the Kremlin. Is that really what you want to support? I support pragmatism, so if Elon does good things I can support him on those things and if he does bad things I can be critical there as well. I am also not morally bound by political partisanship. Also, FWIW, your comment is literally ridiculous considering that this whole thread is about SpaceX providing communication capabilities to Ukraine for free for the last year. That is obviously support that was contrary to Russia and without a doubt has been an instrumental component in helping Ukraine endure the Russian invasion.
- qsdf38100 4y ago
  SpaceX didn’t provide communication capabilities for free. But ok. My comment is ridiculous? Sure, maybe, whatever, I couldn’t care less. But let me point out that your point is ridiculous as well. Even Hitler has done "good" things at some point in his life, right? How comes you don’t praise him for the highways or whatever? Elon is a disgusting piece of shit, as he has repeatedly proven so. Sure you can turn a blind eye and praise him for his "free support" of Ukraine, but 1. It’s false and 2. it doesn’t change the fact that he’s pushing fascism and is an apologist of the worst dictators. So make it look like I’m crazy and you’re wise, but deep inside we all know what we stand for. And by supporting him you don’t stand for anything good. Just saying.
  - kcplate 4y ago
    https://web.archive.org/web/20220405203009/https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/apr-5-2022-usaid-safeguards-internet-access-ukraine-through-public-private https://web.archive.org/web/20220405203009/https://www.usaid... Ok. I’ll stand corrected on that. SpaceX only donated 75% of the capabilities, shame on them and Elon Musk for not donating 100%.
    - qsdf38100 4y ago
      Terminals are 1 thing, but the service isn’t free either. I have no problem with SpaceX. They do some very impressive engineering. I am just appealed by the cult of personality for someone who I think is a malevolent actor, a compulsive liar and actively contributing to the return of fascism.
      - kcplate 4y ago
        I guess I don’t understand your point. You seem upset that Elon isn’t footing the entire bill and therefore have decided to believe that he is actively helping the Russian invasion or contributing to fascism. Why is it his responsibility to fund anything at all. He certainly may be a liar and an asshole, frankly almost every person I have met on this earth have those qualities to them at times.

dougwalker42 4y ago

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kcplate 4y ago

>You need to recognize that supporting Musk in 2023 is supporting the Kremlin. Is that really what you want to support? I support pragmatism, so if Elon does good things I can support him on those things and if he does bad things I can be critical there as well. I am also not morally bound by political partisanship. Also, FWIW, your comment is literally ridiculous considering that this whole thread is about SpaceX providing communication capabilities to Ukraine for free for the last year. That is obviously support that was contrary to Russia and without a doubt has been an instrumental component in helping Ukraine endure the Russian invasion.

qsdf38100 4y ago
SpaceX didn’t provide communication capabilities for free. But ok. My comment is ridiculous? Sure, maybe, whatever, I couldn’t care less. But let me point out that your point is ridiculous as well. Even Hitler has done "good" things at some point in his life, right? How comes you don’t praise him for the highways or whatever? Elon is a disgusting piece of shit, as he has repeatedly proven so. Sure you can turn a blind eye and praise him for his "free support" of Ukraine, but 1. It’s false and 2. it doesn’t change the fact that he’s pushing fascism and is an apologist of the worst dictators. So make it look like I’m crazy and you’re wise, but deep inside we all know what we stand for. And by supporting him you don’t stand for anything good. Just saying.
- kcplate 4y ago
  https://web.archive.org/web/20220405203009/https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/apr-5-2022-usaid-safeguards-internet-access-ukraine-through-public-private https://web.archive.org/web/20220405203009/https://www.usaid... Ok. I’ll stand corrected on that. SpaceX only donated 75% of the capabilities, shame on them and Elon Musk for not donating 100%.
  - qsdf38100 4y ago
    Terminals are 1 thing, but the service isn’t free either. I have no problem with SpaceX. They do some very impressive engineering. I am just appealed by the cult of personality for someone who I think is a malevolent actor, a compulsive liar and actively contributing to the return of fascism.
    - kcplate 4y ago
      I guess I don’t understand your point. You seem upset that Elon isn’t footing the entire bill and therefore have decided to believe that he is actively helping the Russian invasion or contributing to fascism. Why is it his responsibility to fund anything at all. He certainly may be a liar and an asshole, frankly almost every person I have met on this earth have those qualities to them at times.