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When the AI generated content outnumbers human content 10,000 to 1, and the quality is almost ridiculously varied and sometimes incredible, and no functional sy
by zaroth 4y ago
When the AI generated content outnumbers human content 10,000 to 1, and the quality is almost ridiculously varied and sometimes incredible, and no functional system can sustainably authenticate humans without being overrun by bots…
Then the record from that point forward and forever hence will be one of AI, not one of humanity.
- btown 4y agoArguably this is already true of text. We have already entered the age where it is impossible to determine with certainty whether a blog article was written by a human, and so every text data set that includes 2023 internet data will include ChatGPT outputs as ground truth. Future historians will likely place a great deal of emphasis on 2019 being the year in which we reached a forever-maximum of non-pandemic-tinged provably-human-created data. It's no reason to panic, and the mixed data sets will absolutely be representative of humanity's accomplishments as a whole... but there will be notable differences.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago> We have already entered the age where it is impossible to determine with certainty whether a blog article was written by a human, and so every text data set that includes 2023 internet data will include ChatGPT outputs as ground truth. Is that any worse than unreliable humans? Whether they're intentionally lying or just mistaken, internet posts should always be taken with a grain of salt, for decades now.
- dmonitor 4y agoThe unreliability of humans is still valuable data because it shows what humans were thinking at the time.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y agoI guess, but that's a really noisy signal once you account for deliberately misleading posts.
- JohnFen 4y agoEven deliberately misleading posts give you insight into what people are thinking at the time, though.
- bee_rider 4y agoI think they mean ground truth in terms of what human created content looks like, not ground truth in terms of what is actually going on in the world, which of course we don’t collect completely accurately.
- qikInNdOutReply 4y agoFor historians its a catastrophe. After 2023, the good old roman source poison assumation is back in full effect. He who is in power can actually rewrite history. Assume everyone uses written documentation just to proof loyalty to the current computational power holder. Truth will become something similar to the roman emperors history, a million comments, blog articles condemning past rulers and CEOs as wrong all along, while praising the current instance, with similar spam in the forgotten archives. A species ruled by madmen, one worser then the other. Praise be on the Bezos, who undid the mad world that reigned before.
- JohnFen 4y ago> Is that any worse than unreliable humans? Yes, I think so. Maybe not (but maybe) in terms of factual information, but in terms of opinion, analysis, arts, etc. You know, human things. The value of those things is, in my opinion, tightly couples with them being produced by humans.
- flangola7 4y agoI fear the social effects. The days of making long distance friends or relationships over the internet are over. Anonymous communities that don't implement strong KYC are over.
- greedylizard 4y agoWhat is KYC?
- epgui 4y agoKnow Your Customer
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- b800h 4y agoIt may be a great thing. We have in-person events vs. completely fabricated online wonderland. It might - I hope - mean that people flock back to IRL activities.
- flangola7 4y agoWhich isn't great for those of us with very little ability to attend activities outside of the home.
- JohnFen 4y agoOTOH, I have several very deep, meaningful and valuable friendships, spanning decades, with people I've never been physically near. Losing the ability to develop those sorts of relationships is a very real loss. And I have never stopped seeing my IRL friends in person. Those, I almost never talk with electronically.
- Ma8ee 4y agoIt's not that hard to filter content by source. Reputable news sources and authors will not publish AI-generated content (without grave risks to their reputation). And most of the abundant background noise have never provided much value before either.
- krater23 4y ago> Reputable news sources and authors will not publish AI-generated content... This news sources are not just one blob or a black box. It's different people that are working for money. And we know reputable sources that have published fictionary stories as real over years(see Spiegel in Germany). Now it's really easy to unnotable use AI, so where is the reason why this will not happen?
- kragen 4y agocnet published a bunch of unlabeled ai-generated articles for months https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/20/23564311/cnet-pausing-ai-articles-bot-red-ventures https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/20/23564311/cnet-pausing-ai-... the nyt just published a long interview with sydney in which she attempted to convince the author his wife didn't love him, which is ai-generated content; while that was clearly labeled, it will still appear in text data sets as ground truth abundant background noise provides a lot of value for text data sets because it tells you how people talk
- JohnFen 4y agoIn all fairness, cnet hasn't been a reputable news source for a very long time.
- hovden 4y agoI’ve yet to have ChatGPT produce useable content for my technical writing, or even lighter portions of proposal writing, rec letters, emails etc. I found it has done well at cleaning up text, fun language games, and quickly sourcing readily available information. I don’t think 2023 is the year books are replaced (maybe low novelty blogs). I feel a disconnect with how GPT is being exalted, and my underwhelming experience for useable content.
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- phs 4y agoI suppose the veracity of history could be an excellent block chain application.
- zupreme 4y agoOr…art and literature enter a new two-tiered era with artistic and literary works made by humans, with other humans as witnesses to some or all of the process, becoming extreme-premium-items alongside AI-generated works, which are likely to become the fare of mainstream society, if the current wave continues unabated.