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> Two, the tech industry, especially the VC-funded end, is forever crowing ... there has been endless puffery and chest-thumping among VCs and tech startups Wh
by nullc 4y ago
> Two, the tech industry, especially the VC-funded end, is forever crowing ... there has been endless puffery and chest-thumping among VCs and tech startups
When you find yourself cheering for collective punishment you should know that you are absolutely the bad guy.
- wpietri 4y agoI am not in fact arguing for collective punishment. I am arguing for people experiencing the consequences of their choices. The paragraph you quote is about their ardent insistence on being allowed to make those choices without interference.
- bart_spoon 4y agoWhat choices were made by the thousands of employees who work for the startups who can no longer pay them?
- wpietri 4y agoThat looks to be an unlikely scenario, but let's indulge it. Can capitalism be pretty harsh on workers? Sure. 1-2 million people get laid off or let go every month, and it's been that way for a long time: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/JTSLDL https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/JTSLDL Does that suck? Speaking from experience, yes. Should the federal government subsidize startups and/or their funders to save a few thousand jobs? Absolutely not. If we want to spend billions on a better social safety net, let's do it for everybody, not some unprofitable companies whose investors don't see them as worth saving.
- theGnuMe 4y agoummm.. they chose their employer?
- wpietri 4y agoNormally I'd think that an unfair point. We can't generally expect workers to evaluate the financial soundness of their employers. But we are talking about startups here. Everybody going in knows that most startups fail. Hopefully everybody has an exit plan.
- theGnuMe 4y ago> We can't generally expect workers to evaluate the financial soundness of their employers. Why not? It’s like fundamental…
- wpietri 4y agoBecause it's a problem requiring graduate-level finance knowledge? Because it's so difficult that even the professionals find it challenging? Because the companies that go under were often working to hide that even from other sophisticated players?
- theGnuMe 4y agoI don't think it is that complicated. I am surprised at the high balances in SVB though from companies that should've known better.
- rodgerd 4y agoAre those employees of companies whose business model is "driving artists out of business by large-scale copyright infringement and automated drawing based on it?", for example?
- nullc 4y agoThe text I quoted applies to a tiny number of people, few or even none of whom might actually be caught in SVB (as they may have managed to exit first!). But unless I'm misreading it's being used to justify that the harm was deserved by a vastly larger class.