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Is here someone familiar with the situation? Can you explain what the students and DEI dean are upset about? What did Duncan do to deserve the treatment he re

Is here someone familiar with the situation? Can you explain what the students and DEI dean are upset about? What did Duncan do to deserve the treatment he received?

prolyxis 4y ago
The invited speaker was Fifth Circuit Judge Kyle Duncan, whom, according to Wikipedia, has "a history of anti-LGBT activism" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Duncan_(judge)#Opposition_to_LGBT_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Duncan_(judge)#Opposition... . It seems Judge Duncan was invited by the students from the Federalist Society to speak at Stanford Law (see https://stanforddaily.com/2023/03/11/law-school-activists-protest-judge-kyle-duncans-visit-to-campus/ https://stanforddaily.com/2023/03/11/law-school-activists-pr... for more context).
- engineer_22 4y ago
  Thank you :)
Pigalowda 4y ago
He disagreed with them.
- monetus 4y ago
  If the Wikipedia is right, he apparently wanted to prevent them from forming families - that'll make some enemies. "...While he was a judge on the Fifth Circuit, Duncan refused to identify a transgender defendant by their assumed name..." shows the heckling isn't exactly disccordant with his conduct as a judge.
  - Pigalowda 4y ago
    I’m sure his politics don’t align with everyone’s, especially Stanford students. But if you invite a judge to give a lecture to a bunch of law students and they disagree - there’s a much better way to show the disagreement.
    - monetus 4y ago
      They disagreed, and the event obviously didn't do anyone any favors. The students aren't mad that he solely had a difference of opinion. Edit: it isn't a simple disagreement that has no effect on the legal environment
      - Pigalowda 4y ago
        Yea, it’s a bit of a ‘convergence of the twain’. Ideally, I would want my law students to behave differently in an adversarial scenario. To show they can have wildly opposing viewpoints and act professionally. To take down their ideological enemy while maintaining decorum. To actually be morally superior and correctly self-righteous. Should they have had a discussion of that prior to this collision? Probably.
        monetus 4y ago
        Ideally, definitely. In my local university, a similar situation occurred, and while the students didn't attend the lecture, they ridiculed him relentlessly on the way back to his vehicle. Behavior spreads and I think that type of thing has a frustrating idiocy. I think it just trains the dumber systems in your brain. The idea that the students had nothing to empathize with or understand is frustrating too however, and seems to be the implication in some of the discussion. The environment has primed everyone in that Stanford class to act that way, it is pretty sad.

Is here someone familiar with the situation? Can you explain what the students and DEI dean are upset about? What did Duncan do to deserve the treatment he received?

prolyxis 4y ago

The invited speaker was Fifth Circuit Judge Kyle Duncan, whom, according to Wikipedia, has "a history of anti-LGBT activism" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Duncan_(judge)#Opposition_to_LGBT_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Duncan_(judge)#Opposition... . It seems Judge Duncan was invited by the students from the Federalist Society to speak at Stanford Law (see https://stanforddaily.com/2023/03/11/law-school-activists-protest-judge-kyle-duncans-visit-to-campus/ https://stanforddaily.com/2023/03/11/law-school-activists-pr... for more context).

engineer_22 4y ago
Thank you :)

Pigalowda 4y ago

He disagreed with them.

monetus 4y ago
If the Wikipedia is right, he apparently wanted to prevent them from forming families - that'll make some enemies. "...While he was a judge on the Fifth Circuit, Duncan refused to identify a transgender defendant by their assumed name..." shows the heckling isn't exactly disccordant with his conduct as a judge.
- Pigalowda 4y ago
  I’m sure his politics don’t align with everyone’s, especially Stanford students. But if you invite a judge to give a lecture to a bunch of law students and they disagree - there’s a much better way to show the disagreement.
  - monetus 4y ago
    They disagreed, and the event obviously didn't do anyone any favors. The students aren't mad that he solely had a difference of opinion. Edit: it isn't a simple disagreement that has no effect on the legal environment
    - Pigalowda 4y ago
      Yea, it’s a bit of a ‘convergence of the twain’. Ideally, I would want my law students to behave differently in an adversarial scenario. To show they can have wildly opposing viewpoints and act professionally. To take down their ideological enemy while maintaining decorum. To actually be morally superior and correctly self-righteous. Should they have had a discussion of that prior to this collision? Probably.
      - monetus 4y ago
        Ideally, definitely. In my local university, a similar situation occurred, and while the students didn't attend the lecture, they ridiculed him relentlessly on the way back to his vehicle. Behavior spreads and I think that type of thing has a frustrating idiocy. I think it just trains the dumber systems in your brain. The idea that the students had nothing to empathize with or understand is frustrating too however, and seems to be the implication in some of the discussion. The environment has primed everyone in that Stanford class to act that way, it is pretty sad.