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> Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citize

by xg15 4y ago

> Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citizens. How exactly is this going to work with an open border between Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland? For that matter, wouldn't requiring an ETA for Republic of Ireland citizens to travel to Northern Ireland be a violation of the Good Friday Agreement, even independent of what happens at the border?

arp242 4y ago
The part you quoted explicitly says "but are not Irish or British citizens".
- xg15 4y ago
  Argh. Note to self, read articles more carefully. Thanks for the heads up :) That being said, politicians seem to shy away from putting anything resembling a checkpoint on that border in fear of reigniting the conflict. But that would be necessary, if only to check residency status and validate the ETA for non-Irish EU citizens. Once there is a checkpoint, political pressure will rise to also use it for EU goods checks and renegotiate the Windsor agreement. That, or NI will be excluded from the ETA requirement and the check will be moved to the irish sea border - which would make the DUP mad again. This stuff was a gordian knot to solve for goods alone, they'll have fun doing it all again for people.
  - dfawcus 4y ago
    Domestic flights within the UK (e.g. London / Edinburgh) require positive ID checks, since around 1995 or so. So nothing changes regarding flights from NI to GB. There are usually few checks on the ferries, but one is advised to carry proof of citizenship, as one can be asked to prove that one is entitled to use the CTA. Separately, it was recently announced that third country nationals traveling from Ireland to NI would not require prior authorisations. i.e. the UK will not police travel across the intra-Ireland brder.
    - xg15 4y ago
      > Separately, it was recently announced that third country nationals traveling from Ireland to NI would not require prior authorisations. i.e. the UK will not police travel across the intra-Ireland brder. Ah ok. Glad to hear they are being sensible here.
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by xg15 4y ago

arp242 4y ago

The part you quoted explicitly says "but are not Irish or British citizens".

xg15 4y ago
Argh. Note to self, read articles more carefully. Thanks for the heads up :) That being said, politicians seem to shy away from putting anything resembling a checkpoint on that border in fear of reigniting the conflict. But that would be necessary, if only to check residency status and validate the ETA for non-Irish EU citizens. Once there is a checkpoint, political pressure will rise to also use it for EU goods checks and renegotiate the Windsor agreement. That, or NI will be excluded from the ETA requirement and the check will be moved to the irish sea border - which would make the DUP mad again. This stuff was a gordian knot to solve for goods alone, they'll have fun doing it all again for people.
- dfawcus 4y ago
  Domestic flights within the UK (e.g. London / Edinburgh) require positive ID checks, since around 1995 or so. So nothing changes regarding flights from NI to GB. There are usually few checks on the ferries, but one is advised to carry proof of citizenship, as one can be asked to prove that one is entitled to use the CTA. Separately, it was recently announced that third country nationals traveling from Ireland to NI would not require prior authorisations. i.e. the UK will not police travel across the intra-Ireland brder.
  - xg15 4y ago
    > Separately, it was recently announced that third country nationals traveling from Ireland to NI would not require prior authorisations. i.e. the UK will not police travel across the intra-Ireland brder. Ah ok. Glad to hear they are being sensible here.

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