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> shouting down students who raised questions with civility Sounds awful. Is there video?

spamizbad 4y ago
Here's one video: https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1634791941350064128?s=20 https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1634791941350064128?... This is going to be a super unpopular take so feel free to let me have it (I won't hold it against you): I don't know why anyone would expect a bunch of Stanford students to be bowled over by some appointed midwit judge. Your typical Stanford student, assuming they're not a legacy, is extremely hard-working and bright. Top of their class. Whereas your typical judge is a mediocre lawyer who happened to be a known commodity among oily politicians. The idea that we sneer at our best college students but celebrate mediocre jurists isn't reflective of a meritocratic society.
- nhchris 4y ago
  In that video he calmly replies "You're an appalling idiot" to the person calling him* "disgusting". I was more interested in the alleged shouting at civil questions. *Correction: The student is calling what he's doing disgusting, not the man himself. > Your typical Stanford student, assuming they're not a legacy, is extremely hard-working and bright. Top of their class. Whereas your typical judge is a mediocre lawyer who happened to be a known commodity among oily politicians. The typical judge, perhaps, but Duncan [0] graduated summa cum laude [1] from Louisiana State University, which seems to be well regarded, and earned a Master of Laws from Columbia Law School, which is "widely regarded as one of the most prestigious law schools in the world and has always ranked in the top five schools in the United States" [2]. But more pertinent is engineer_22's comment [3] that he was invited to speak by some of those students you think so highly of. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Duncan_(judge) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Duncan_(judge) [1] meaning "with highest praise", typically awarded to graduates in the top 1%, 2%, or 5% of their class - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_honors#Distinctions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_honors#Distinctions [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Law_School https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Law_School [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35121972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35121972
  - spamizbad 4y ago
    You can clearly hear the person saying "its disgusting". They weren't calling him disgusting.
  - raincom 4y ago
    To the elite class of this country, Louisiana State University is nothing compared to Harvard/Yale/Stanford Law schools. Graduates of the latter schools, according to many, descend from high heavens, whereas people from state schools are those who can't make it to HYS.
    - starkd 4y ago
      That is the epitome of an elitist comment. Do you even know anything about LSU?
      - aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 4y ago
        Then you’re agreeing that it’s an elitist point of view.
      - raincom 4y ago
        There are two aspects to my comment: (a) whether one agrees with my comment or not (b) whether one understands what's going on in the world. My comment is about (b): the way students and their parents crave for HYP/S undergrad admissions; HYS law schools; Harvard/Stanford b schools; tells us that even those who sneer at elites want their kids to be part of the same elite or at least become servants of that elite. By the way, I didn't go to any elite college anywhere in the world. However, I want to understand people.
- scarmig 4y ago
  There's something... interesting about ostensible egalitarians (equitytarians?) saying that someone is worthy of less respect because they went to LSU instead of an elite school like Stanford. How they acted toward the guest would be inappropriate even if he were an ex-homeless high school dropout. If he's a midwit, embarrass him by asking pointed questions, not by heckling and hurling insults.
- engineer_22 4y ago
  He was invited to speak by Stanford students, so at least a minority of hard-working and bright students wanted to hear what he had to say.
- pxmpxm 4y ago
  Well the point of contention isn't the stances being discussed, but rather that a group of ostensibly top-law intellectuals behaving like a mob of room-temp-iq occupy wallst idiots. All feelz, devoid of thought.
- slibhb 4y ago
  I don't expect the students to be "bowled over" by a judge. I expect them not to heckle him. You seem to be saying the treatment is justified because the students are smarter than the judge.

Here's one video: https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1634791941350064128?s=20 https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1634791941350064128?... This is going to be a super unpopular take so feel free to let me have it (I won't hold it against you): I don't know why anyone would expect a bunch of Stanford students to be bowled over by some appointed midwit judge. Your typical Stanford student, assuming they're not a legacy, is extremely hard-working and bright. Top of their class. Whereas your typical judge is a mediocre lawyer who happened to be a known commodity among oily politicians. The idea that we sneer at our best college students but celebrate mediocre jurists isn't reflective of a meritocratic society.

nhchris 4y ago
In that video he calmly replies "You're an appalling idiot" to the person calling him* "disgusting". I was more interested in the alleged shouting at civil questions. *Correction: The student is calling what he's doing disgusting, not the man himself. > Your typical Stanford student, assuming they're not a legacy, is extremely hard-working and bright. Top of their class. Whereas your typical judge is a mediocre lawyer who happened to be a known commodity among oily politicians. The typical judge, perhaps, but Duncan [0] graduated summa cum laude [1] from Louisiana State University, which seems to be well regarded, and earned a Master of Laws from Columbia Law School, which is "widely regarded as one of the most prestigious law schools in the world and has always ranked in the top five schools in the United States" [2]. But more pertinent is engineer_22's comment [3] that he was invited to speak by some of those students you think so highly of. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Duncan_(judge) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Duncan_(judge) [1] meaning "with highest praise", typically awarded to graduates in the top 1%, 2%, or 5% of their class - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_honors#Distinctions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_honors#Distinctions [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Law_School https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Law_School [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35121972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35121972
- spamizbad 4y ago
  You can clearly hear the person saying "its disgusting". They weren't calling him disgusting.
- raincom 4y ago
  To the elite class of this country, Louisiana State University is nothing compared to Harvard/Yale/Stanford Law schools. Graduates of the latter schools, according to many, descend from high heavens, whereas people from state schools are those who can't make it to HYS.
  - starkd 4y ago
    That is the epitome of an elitist comment. Do you even know anything about LSU?
    - aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 4y ago
      Then you’re agreeing that it’s an elitist point of view.
    - raincom 4y ago
      There are two aspects to my comment: (a) whether one agrees with my comment or not (b) whether one understands what's going on in the world. My comment is about (b): the way students and their parents crave for HYP/S undergrad admissions; HYS law schools; Harvard/Stanford b schools; tells us that even those who sneer at elites want their kids to be part of the same elite or at least become servants of that elite. By the way, I didn't go to any elite college anywhere in the world. However, I want to understand people.
scarmig 4y ago
There's something... interesting about ostensible egalitarians (equitytarians?) saying that someone is worthy of less respect because they went to LSU instead of an elite school like Stanford. How they acted toward the guest would be inappropriate even if he were an ex-homeless high school dropout. If he's a midwit, embarrass him by asking pointed questions, not by heckling and hurling insults.
engineer_22 4y ago
He was invited to speak by Stanford students, so at least a minority of hard-working and bright students wanted to hear what he had to say.
pxmpxm 4y ago
Well the point of contention isn't the stances being discussed, but rather that a group of ostensibly top-law intellectuals behaving like a mob of room-temp-iq occupy wallst idiots. All feelz, devoid of thought.
slibhb 4y ago
I don't expect the students to be "bowled over" by a judge. I expect them not to heckle him. You seem to be saying the treatment is justified because the students are smarter than the judge.