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Because there are health and safety issues that some adults are happy to overlook whilst society, eventually, picks up the bill.
by dazc 4y ago
Because there are health and safety issues that some adults are happy to overlook whilst society, eventually, picks up the bill.
- baggy_trough 4y agoFire safety I can see; health benefits sound like a rather dubious claim.
- dazc 4y agoPoor housing has detrimental physical and mental health benefits, I'm not sure many people would find this such a dubious statement?
- xnx 4y agoCountless situations, like living in a rainy climate, have detrimental physical and mental effects, but we still allow it.
- baggy_trough 4y agoI think adults should be able to evaluate if they can put up with missing the health benefits of a window for improved location or reduced cost. Life is about tradeoffs.
- dazc 4y agoMaybe, but the reason there are rules and regulations relating to many everyday activities is that when people make decisions about their own lives those decisions can result in negative impacts to society as a whole. OK, I think not having fire protection in my building can save me a lot of rent. And yes, I have picked an extreme example to validate my point just have you have done.
- baggy_trough 4y agoI'm literally responding to the example in the thread. And I agree with you on fire safety (of course, that could also be taken too far).
- vanviegen 4y agoNot everybody gets to actually choose though..
- gruez 4y agoWhat about "the bill" associated with not having affordable housing, and people being forced to either pay for overpriced units, or having to live 1 hour from work?
- ghaff 4y agoFrom the article, the conversions in Manhattan are producing apartments that rent from $3,500 to $7,000 per month because the conversions are too expensive for lower-end housing. There's presumably some trickle down supply effect but these conversions are not producing affordable housing directly.
- gruez 4y ago>From the article, the conversions in Manhattan are producing apartments that rent from $3,500 to $7,000 per month because the conversions are too expensive for lower-end housing But presumably some of that pricing is because of all the work needed to make those units comply with code? In the nytimes article they mentioned that for one of the conversions, they had a make a courtyard (literally cutting a hole into the building). I can't imagine that would be cheap. On the other hand if building codes allowed for shared bathrooms/kitchens and windowless bedrooms, all you'd have to do for a "conversion" is rip everything out and put in some drywalls.
- ghaff 4y agoFor that matter, why not just move in bunk beds and call it a day. Even quicker and cheaper.
- baggy_trough 4y agoAbsolutely, why not, if people prefer cheap bunk beds?