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The cost of the ETA has not been confirmed but it is expected to be in a similar range to those schemes. The U.S. Electronic System for Travel Authorization cos
by recuter 4y ago
The cost of the ETA has not been confirmed but it is expected to be in a similar range to those schemes. The U.S. Electronic System for Travel Authorization costs $21.
The European Union is set to launch its own digital travel authorization scheme, called ETIAS, for visa-exempt nationals in 2024. It will enable travel within 30 countries.
This isn't a UK thing, I expect most developed countries to adopt such things in the coming decade. The EU one is supposed to be like $7 and be valid for a bunch of years at a time, but these fees are going to add up if you travel all over.
- ksec 4y ago>Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citizens. So anything who didn't apply an ETA will now be blocked? I thought they should at least offer an option for something like £100 to get it done at the border. But that is a lot of inconvenience for travellers.
- recuter 4y agoThe point of it is to know way ahead of time who is coming to their shores, even at the cost of inconvenience. Quick online esta-style form, not too bad, you just have to remember to do it.
- Someone1234 4y agoFor some people it will be a "quick online form." For others, they've gone from VISA free travel to potentially a trip/interview at the embassy. Just ask anyone with a similar name to a "bad person" what their experience has been like.
- recuter 4y agoSo?
- Someone1234 4y agoSo, the thing I said? Are you fine with substantially more burdensome requirements as long as it doesn't impact you personally?
- recuter 4y agoYep. There is also "bad person" without scare quotes to consider.
- Someone1234 4y agoYou misread what I said above: > similar name to a "bad person" If you share the same name with someone on a watch list, you may be required to physically attend an interview at the embassy. That's a huge burden and something visa free travelers may not have had to do before.
- recuter 4y agoI understood perfectly well and nonetheless a-OK with this. It is a huge burden for me and everybody else to take off our shoes and stand in long lines over the last 25 years or so. The experience is already suboptimal, some security theatre is at play to be sure, and yet what do you actually suggest? Perhaps you misread what I said above: > There is also "bad person" without scare quotes to consider.
- Someone1234 4y ago> yet what do you actually suggest? The status quo? That's implied by the conversation we're having, the existing system Vs. the new system. > Perhaps you misread what I said above: Didn't understand it the first time I read it, don't understand it now.
- explaininjs 4y agoIf that was the only point, why make you pay? Colombia's "Check-MIG" is similar but free.
- akmarinov 4y agoNothing different than what the US has at the moment and they’re ok
- htag 4y agoMany types of visitors do not need an ETA when traveling to the US. Specifically the Visa Waiver Program (covers ~50 countries) does not require travel plans nor do most visits from Canadians. This is different because it applies to all visitors. I am under the impression some types of Visas allow reentry without declaring ETA ahead of times, but I am unsure.
- CaptainZapp 4y agoThat's not true. Travellers from visa waiver countries explicitly need an ETA. All others need, well, a visa. Possibly Canada is different.
- Someone1234 4y agoIn particular for those inter-Europe cruise ships that do EU and non-EU countries, like the UK. I can imagine you need to get 2, 3, or more of these authorizations each with a fee from $7-30.
- avh02 4y agoas someone who has a crappy passport, I laugh at "fees are going to add up" given we regularly pay $50+ (sometimes several hundred dollars) "application fees" for 1-3 week visit visas (sometimes you get lucky with 6 month or 1 year) and often wait 2-3 weeks for our passports to come back from the embassy. If I'm planning to visit two countries in one trip, i have to plan that each embassy will hold my passport for a week or two (it really depends on the country). These schemes are "harder" than what it used to be, but still a hoop i'd be ecstatic to jump through if i could.
- grishka 4y agoI fairly recently applied for a Finnish visa and my application was rejected because Finland closed its border for Russians while my application was processing. I paid around 50€ for the privilege of having my passport held for 3 weeks and a small note saying "we're no longer issuing tourist visas, kthxbye".
- freefaler 4y agoI don't understand it. If I don't need a visa, because I'm a "visa-exempt" national insn't ETIAS just another name for a visa then? It's confusing and looks like a copout from the previous VISA agreements countries have signed.
- dfawcus 4y agoAs I understand it, legally even the simple stamp in a passport counts as a "visa", even when one does not have to apply (and pay) for a visa ahead of time. Hence all of these various "visa waiver" schemes have been mis-named, they're just simpler/cheaper/easier visa schemes.