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>When I ran a consultancy, I spent a lot of rent of making sure my employees had both proper offices where they could think and common areas where they could co

>When I ran a consultancy, I spent a lot of rent of making sure my employees had both proper offices where they could think and common areas where they could collaborate. Doing otherwise is foolish. Looking back, wouldn't it have made more sense to not spend alot on rent and let the employees work at home? Granted, no common areas to collaborate.

trenchgun 4y ago
It is very impartant to have live collaboration possibility. Also working from home is not as productive.
- devjab 4y ago
  > Also working from home is not as productive. I'd like to see your data on that. When covid hit and sent everyone home I was working in the Danish public sector and we saw an increase in productivity. People worked less hours, or at least, they were using their computers for less hours, but they delivered more. It probably would've lead to reforms if it wasn't because the employee satisfaction didn't do equally well. As you might imagine, covid was hard on middle managers, but it also turned out that quite a lot of employees (public sector might be very different than tech) got very lonely while working from home every day.
  - throwuwu 4y ago
    > it also turned out that quite a lot of employees (public sector might be very different than tech) got very lonely while working from home every day. There’s your answer, demoralized employees are unproductive.
    - coldtea 4y ago
      Let's give them commutes, and have them on an open plan or cubicles, that should boost their morale!
      - msm_ 4y ago
        Commuting (I usually bike) and meeting with my teammates in person does wonders to my morale indeed.
      - mwest217 4y ago
        For me, who’s made the decision to live 1.1 miles from the office, my commute (either biking or walking) is a positive benefit. During Covid WFH I would try to get out for a similar length of walk in the morning, but it’s better for my brain to get into work mode by actually traveling to a different space.
        nec4b 4y ago
        You do realize it's physically impossible for everyone to live so close to the office?
        TheHappyOddish 4y ago
        And because of this nobody should be allowed to commute?
    - raydev 4y ago
      Might have also been that recreational places were mostly closed or on limited hours, and many people forced into working from home didn't have adequate physical space or time management habits to create boundaries.
- coldtea 4y ago
  Citation needed
mcculley 4y ago
It makes more sense now. Back then we did not have as many good tools for remote collaboration. My business had certain other constraints that made physical space necessary.

trenchgun 4y ago

It is very impartant to have live collaboration possibility. Also working from home is not as productive.

devjab 4y ago
> Also working from home is not as productive. I'd like to see your data on that. When covid hit and sent everyone home I was working in the Danish public sector and we saw an increase in productivity. People worked less hours, or at least, they were using their computers for less hours, but they delivered more. It probably would've lead to reforms if it wasn't because the employee satisfaction didn't do equally well. As you might imagine, covid was hard on middle managers, but it also turned out that quite a lot of employees (public sector might be very different than tech) got very lonely while working from home every day.
- throwuwu 4y ago
  > it also turned out that quite a lot of employees (public sector might be very different than tech) got very lonely while working from home every day. There’s your answer, demoralized employees are unproductive.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    Let's give them commutes, and have them on an open plan or cubicles, that should boost their morale!
    - msm_ 4y ago
      Commuting (I usually bike) and meeting with my teammates in person does wonders to my morale indeed.
    - mwest217 4y ago
      For me, who’s made the decision to live 1.1 miles from the office, my commute (either biking or walking) is a positive benefit. During Covid WFH I would try to get out for a similar length of walk in the morning, but it’s better for my brain to get into work mode by actually traveling to a different space.
      - nec4b 4y ago
        You do realize it's physically impossible for everyone to live so close to the office?
        TheHappyOddish 4y ago
        And because of this nobody should be allowed to commute?
  - raydev 4y ago
    Might have also been that recreational places were mostly closed or on limited hours, and many people forced into working from home didn't have adequate physical space or time management habits to create boundaries.
coldtea 4y ago
Citation needed

mcculley 4y ago

It makes more sense now. Back then we did not have as many good tools for remote collaboration. My business had certain other constraints that made physical space necessary.