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So what's this, shoot the messenger? It seems to me this whole debacle was ultimately caused by the fed's aggressive rate rises due to their wrongheaded obsess

So what's this, shoot the messenger? It seems to me this whole debacle was ultimately caused by the fed's aggressive rate rises due to their wrongheaded obsession with inflation.

cosmotic 4y ago
How can you blame the fed for the bank not having funds to cover the deposits?
- Ekaros 4y ago
  Because actions of fed made the bank unstable. By lowering value of things it hold And then other people attacked it causing a bank run that put it over the edge. Without the run, it likely could still be operating without too big issues.
  - cosmotic 4y ago
    The bank chose to make risky investments with the deposits it held. That's on the bank, not the fed.
    - jacknews 4y ago
      US Treasuries?
- throwwwaway69 4y ago
  The Fed (the reserve and the FDIC) in addition to The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency regulate banking practices. If banks are failing then it's the lack of proper regulation that's responsible.
  - 7e 4y ago
    Regulation is not to designed to prevent every failure. Banks are private, not owned by the state, as the U.S. is a capitalist system.
    - throwwwaway69 4y ago
      Regulation should exist to limit or eliminate the risk of Americans having to pay to cover for bad executive decision making. The whole point of laws and regulations are to protect people and their interests. It is in the public interest to have a stable banking system, and it's also in the public interest to not have to pay premiums for deposit insurance (which we all currently do)
AtlasBarfed 4y ago
It's only a bad thing if there are shorts on the side from the big whales who started pulling levers. I mean, would ANYTHING be done about it? No. And if the bank could be propped despite what the evil soloblogger power-tweeted, would the gov't prop it up? Yeah. Oh wait, unless some powerful people influenced the govt not too... I was just trying to retrace the "Global. Coordinated. Recession." Tweet from a few months back, which got walked back. Is a banking crisis an attempt to make another recession since inflation, rate hikes, etc aren't doing a very good job?
- jacknews 4y ago
  Let's see how govt. handles this. I think if they just stand by, we can maybe assume that this kind of consequence is sort-of a deliberate part of the rate policy.

So what's this, shoot the messenger? It seems to me this whole debacle was ultimately caused by the fed's aggressive rate rises due to their wrongheaded obsession with inflation.

cosmotic 4y ago

How can you blame the fed for the bank not having funds to cover the deposits?

Ekaros 4y ago
Because actions of fed made the bank unstable. By lowering value of things it hold And then other people attacked it causing a bank run that put it over the edge. Without the run, it likely could still be operating without too big issues.
- cosmotic 4y ago
  The bank chose to make risky investments with the deposits it held. That's on the bank, not the fed.
  - jacknews 4y ago
    US Treasuries?
throwwwaway69 4y ago
The Fed (the reserve and the FDIC) in addition to The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency regulate banking practices. If banks are failing then it's the lack of proper regulation that's responsible.
- 7e 4y ago
  Regulation is not to designed to prevent every failure. Banks are private, not owned by the state, as the U.S. is a capitalist system.
  - throwwwaway69 4y ago
    Regulation should exist to limit or eliminate the risk of Americans having to pay to cover for bad executive decision making. The whole point of laws and regulations are to protect people and their interests. It is in the public interest to have a stable banking system, and it's also in the public interest to not have to pay premiums for deposit insurance (which we all currently do)

AtlasBarfed 4y ago

It's only a bad thing if there are shorts on the side from the big whales who started pulling levers. I mean, would ANYTHING be done about it? No. And if the bank could be propped despite what the evil soloblogger power-tweeted, would the gov't prop it up? Yeah. Oh wait, unless some powerful people influenced the govt not too... I was just trying to retrace the "Global. Coordinated. Recession." Tweet from a few months back, which got walked back. Is a banking crisis an attempt to make another recession since inflation, rate hikes, etc aren't doing a very good job?

jacknews 4y ago
Let's see how govt. handles this. I think if they just stand by, we can maybe assume that this kind of consequence is sort-of a deliberate part of the rate policy.