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I've been unemployed for the last six months and while I could last longer by using my retirement savings I'm not sure it would be a good decision. I personall
by kls 15y ago
I've been unemployed for the last six months and while I could last longer by using my retirement savings I'm not sure it would be a good decision.
I personally would not go into retirement for an asset that is underwater and that is most assuredly going to go underwater further. It is almost universally agreed among economist that have not been cheerleading for the past 5 years that inflation is coming, when it does house prices will decline further. That coupled with the mortgage fraud crisis means that housing recovery is a long way off.
Rationally looking at the situation you are below zero, putting your retirement into it, compounds the problem because you are not elevating the sinking asset while you are depleting hard cash. It's the old don't throw good money after bad.
I believe in honoring your debts but I also want to be pragmatic
We each have to come to grips with what we find acceptable, some things to remember though are that you may have paid into mortgage insurance, to insure the home from a default. Some people see that as a ethical out, after-all if you paid into it you secured the bank from the event, you should be entitled to utilize it. Others find it ethically agreeable that the banks where bailed out with public money, and therefore the public has the right to in-turn ease the burden on themselves, it is the moral hazard argument that people raised in bailing out the banks. That if we did so, it would give people the ethical right to opt out of being the one holding the bag. It is a moral hazard but I do see both sides of the argument. For me personally I believe we are a civilization of people first, I know at this particular time we sometimes don't act like it, but my personal ethics are people are the most important. As such I believe no person should be asked to personally bear the brunt of any socitial issue, if an issue is causing suffering, which I consider financial hardship to be, then I think that we as a society should support them remedying that situation, even if it contributes to the problem. What we can't have is a class of entities like the banks who are able to pass the burden and then citizens, who are then expected to grin and bare it. To do so asks members of our society who have the least resources, to suffer for the common good. Personally I think we are long past the moral arguments of walking away, either by short sale or foreclosure. Asking homeowners to bare the cost of propping up the inflated housing market, when we did not do so with the banks is unethical in my world view. We as Americans seem to hold a double standard on issues like this, where companies are given a free pass, but yet the citizens are held to a code of honor. It leaves the population ripe for exploitation, by creating two distinct sets of rules.
- hnta1234567890 15y agokls, Thank you. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your answer. I may not have a choice in the matter but if I were to get a job does that change your outlook or at this point is any money put towards an underwater mortgage that is likely to decline further "throwing good money after bad"?
- kls 15y agoI think we are looking at at least 10% more losses in housing and possible as much as 20% with a long flat period in demand after that. Please keep in mind I an not an economist nor is finance my trade, but I do listen to a lot of the economist that where right about the situation and have continued to be right. They see the bottom anywhere down to 20% more. If I personally where in your position, I would cut my losses now, given that you do not know what tomorrow will bring. Even if tomorrow brings a job, you are in a better financial position by walking. Especially if you have enough in savings to pick up another house once the market bottoms. To me you are in an ethically good situation to do it, and it makes the most financial sense. If it where me personally I would not seek to do a short sale as you have already chased it down to where you are at retirement funds, destroying yourself to honor an obligation should not be expected, which is a possibility because you will be responsible for payments while it is in short sale and demand is too far down to take the bet that it will sell soon. As well not that this should affect your decision, but foreclosures have taken several years to go through, with the mortgage fraud in some states they are virtually stopped and do not look to be starting up anytime soon. If you do choose to default, you will be in the home for a long time, you can utilize this time to rebuild your life. If you chose to vacate it, it would sit empty for that period, and in may cases the banks prefer that the owner remain in the home so that it is not stripped or vandalized while all the legal process is worked out. If you would like to talk more about it please email me, my email is in my profile. I had a good friend go through this situation, so I am familiar with the turmoil.
- hnta1234567890 15y agokls - Thanks again I really appreciate it.