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My personal problem with Stable diffusion moment is that nothing practical came up from that moment. Concerning all image generative models I only see them used

My personal problem with Stable diffusion moment is that nothing practical came up from that moment. Concerning all image generative models I only see them used in generation of OG-images for mostly uninteresting articles on the internet. I can only see the same practical personal use for language models.

palata 4y ago
> I can only see the same practical personal use I can see fake accounts, phishing and disinformation at a whole new scale, too.
- SergeAx 4y ago
  Yes, I meant about the same: I percept uninteresting garbage content as malicious too.
simonw 4y ago
Prior to Stable Diffusion's release very few people outside of the AI research community were paying much attention to generative AI models. Stable Diffusion kicked off a wave of interest which hasn't stopped building yet - albeit massively accelerated by ChatGPT's release in November.
- SergeAx 4y ago
  Yes, this is true and it is hard to ignore. However, I was talking about practical applications, not just general interest. There were several hype-generating stories about diffusion model winning art contest and using LLM to write grading essays, but that was it.
  - CyanBird 4y ago
    > practical applications What do you even mean! It is being used right now on all sorts of creative industries for things like ui/Ux generation, concept art, vfx production etc I myself use it for concepting and color correction on video games pipeline production
quotemstr 4y ago
> My personal problem with Stable diffusion moment is that nothing practical came up from that momen Before Stable Diffusion democratized image generation, Very Serious People across the industry claimed that unless they and their friends exercised strict control over the kinds of images people generated using AI, society would collapse, the sky would fall, and it would all be over. After that, the public gained access to diffusion models for imagine generation, and the sky did not in fact fall. These prognosticators of doom are wearing egg on their faces. Likewise, today, the intelligentsia is predicting DOOM! DOOM I SAY! if LLMs become available outside the close supervision (and censorship control) of San Francisco trust and safety teams. Democratizing LLMs will further delegitimize claims that some central authority needs to control this new technology. This is great! When the printing press came out, it took a hundred years to democratize it. It'll take us ten months! The single biggest benefit of projects like llama.cpp is annihilating claims on the past of gatekeepers that for our own safety we need to let them control how we use math.
- SergeAx 4y ago
  That makes sense. I thought that "technology cannot be stopped" is quite obvious and didn't even think about someone trying to do the opposite.
- visarga 4y ago
  > for our own safety we need to let them control how we use math Not math. The magical sauce is not math, it's the raw text used to train the model. Language data has this property that it can take a raw initialised neural net and turn it into LLaMA and chatGPT. The same language data turns babies into modern empowered adults instead of cave men or worse. We're not that smart without language. A single human can't rediscover it, it is a self replicating system evolving in parallel with us.
- fock 4y ago
  > Likewise, today, the intelligentsia is predicting DOOM! DOOM I SAY! if LLMs become available outside the close supervision (and censorship control) of San Francisco trust and safety teams I wouldn't order figures as Elon Musk or Peter Thiel as intelligentsia. They are just greedy operators for the MIC.
another_story 4y ago
It hasn't even been a year. Tech moves fast, but developing real tools takes time.
cma 4y ago
A netflix anime used stable diffusion for backgrounds, and the top game on Xbox game pass used it for some props of movie posters ir something.
yacine_ 4y ago
How do you know the artwork and adwork you're seeing today isn't generated using a diffusion model? Every professional artist I know has SD & blender in their toolkit
- SergeAx 4y ago
  It is still quite obvious, except maybe when ML model used to enhance an original artwork.
  - yacine_ 4y ago
    just checking in again here :) I'm not so sure this is true
nuclearsugar 4y ago
Stable Diffusion paired with StyleGAN2 makes for some fun results - https://www.jasonfletcher.info/vjloops https://www.jasonfletcher.info/vjloops

palata 4y ago

> I can only see the same practical personal use I can see fake accounts, phishing and disinformation at a whole new scale, too.

SergeAx 4y ago
Yes, I meant about the same: I percept uninteresting garbage content as malicious too.

simonw 4y ago

Prior to Stable Diffusion's release very few people outside of the AI research community were paying much attention to generative AI models. Stable Diffusion kicked off a wave of interest which hasn't stopped building yet - albeit massively accelerated by ChatGPT's release in November.

SergeAx 4y ago
Yes, this is true and it is hard to ignore. However, I was talking about practical applications, not just general interest. There were several hype-generating stories about diffusion model winning art contest and using LLM to write grading essays, but that was it.
- CyanBird 4y ago
  > practical applications What do you even mean! It is being used right now on all sorts of creative industries for things like ui/Ux generation, concept art, vfx production etc I myself use it for concepting and color correction on video games pipeline production

quotemstr 4y ago

> My personal problem with Stable diffusion moment is that nothing practical came up from that momen Before Stable Diffusion democratized image generation, Very Serious People across the industry claimed that unless they and their friends exercised strict control over the kinds of images people generated using AI, society would collapse, the sky would fall, and it would all be over. After that, the public gained access to diffusion models for imagine generation, and the sky did not in fact fall. These prognosticators of doom are wearing egg on their faces. Likewise, today, the intelligentsia is predicting DOOM! DOOM I SAY! if LLMs become available outside the close supervision (and censorship control) of San Francisco trust and safety teams. Democratizing LLMs will further delegitimize claims that some central authority needs to control this new technology. This is great! When the printing press came out, it took a hundred years to democratize it. It'll take us ten months! The single biggest benefit of projects like llama.cpp is annihilating claims on the past of gatekeepers that for our own safety we need to let them control how we use math.

SergeAx 4y ago
That makes sense. I thought that "technology cannot be stopped" is quite obvious and didn't even think about someone trying to do the opposite.
visarga 4y ago
> for our own safety we need to let them control how we use math Not math. The magical sauce is not math, it's the raw text used to train the model. Language data has this property that it can take a raw initialised neural net and turn it into LLaMA and chatGPT. The same language data turns babies into modern empowered adults instead of cave men or worse. We're not that smart without language. A single human can't rediscover it, it is a self replicating system evolving in parallel with us.
fock 4y ago
> Likewise, today, the intelligentsia is predicting DOOM! DOOM I SAY! if LLMs become available outside the close supervision (and censorship control) of San Francisco trust and safety teams I wouldn't order figures as Elon Musk or Peter Thiel as intelligentsia. They are just greedy operators for the MIC.

another_story 4y ago

It hasn't even been a year. Tech moves fast, but developing real tools takes time.

cma 4y ago

A netflix anime used stable diffusion for backgrounds, and the top game on Xbox game pass used it for some props of movie posters ir something.

yacine_ 4y ago

How do you know the artwork and adwork you're seeing today isn't generated using a diffusion model? Every professional artist I know has SD & blender in their toolkit

SergeAx 4y ago
It is still quite obvious, except maybe when ML model used to enhance an original artwork.
- yacine_ 4y ago
  just checking in again here :) I'm not so sure this is true

nuclearsugar 4y ago

Stable Diffusion paired with StyleGAN2 makes for some fun results - https://www.jasonfletcher.info/vjloops https://www.jasonfletcher.info/vjloops