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> Over the weekend, Germany conducted a hard and close-fought election with calm, ease and not a peep about voter fraud Yeah, I'm gonna trust this guy for sure
by morelisp 4y ago
> Over the weekend, Germany conducted a hard and close-fought election with calm, ease and not a peep about voter fraud
Yeah, I'm gonna trust this guy for sure.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoThe good news is that you don't have to trust this guy about the fact that Bush had a debt limit fight: it was a pretty big deal in 2006-2007 and it's all over every source that you might bother to look at. Also, this is the New York Times, which is pretty well known for not getting facts wrong, although their opinions are often suspect (and not always constrained to the editorial section).
- morelisp 4y agoAs always the devil is in the details, and I'm old enough I was around and paying attention for the Bush years. The debt limit fight referenced in the essay was actually extremely minor - there was never a real risk of a shutdown, unlike 1995, 2011, and 2013 - and the Democrats' position was broadly not "don't raise it" but "if you're gonna raise it, how about also we fund something other than wars". It's not at all comparable to the times the Republicans have a) actually precipitated or enacted crisis, sometimes with no specific demands, and b) when they do have demands, it's a hard line of tax cuts plus lower expenditures.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoYour bias is showing here. Someone could easily come in and say that the Republicans weren't saying "don't raise it" they were saying "if you're gonna raise it, how about we give people some tax cuts too?" And those Republicans really meant it, too (/s)! It's not magically better or less of a political play when the side you like does it, even though Democrats generally cave on their own threats too early.
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