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The flaw with this statement is that the Ivies absolutely do recruit athletes and allow coaches to prioritize students for acceptance, just like other D1 school

• kevinventullo 4y ago
  Honestly I’d prefer admission of an athlete who prioritizes an Ivy League degree over money to admission of one more silver-spoon legacy.
  • whimsicalism 4y ago
    In my experience at an Ivy, these things often dovetail because of the types of sports they choose to recruit (outside of football & basketball) tend to be of the decidedly more squash, crew, equestrian sports, etc. that bias towards new england elites.
    • TheOtherHobbes 4y ago
      From a non-US perspective the idea that top universities recruit athletic talent at all is really quite strange. There are some athletic scholarships at Oxford and Cambridge, but they're not at all mainstream in the way athletics seems to be in the US.
    • grogenaut 4y ago
      I mean what sports outside of Football/Baseball/Basketball/Soccer don't bias towards the elites? These most popular sports are cheap and easy to play except contact football. You can play them in every park, with less than $100 of gear. They're very accessible. There's also Track and Field, which generally you can do cheaply and anywhere. After that you start getting restrictions on where you can do them and what it costs to do them. So obvioulsy they'll be done more by the "elite" Other college sports: Hockey: Quite expensive gear, ice time. Maybe in Canada? In the US football pays for all the gear, in much of the US you buy your own hockey gear for like $1k. Tennis: These days maybe not as elite, can be quite accessible, but historically quite elite. Golf: Golf actually has a huge blue collar contingent, but still seems pretty elite. Swimming: You need a pool, you need heat or an indoor pool, likely regionally dependent on elite vs accessible. Wrestling: you can do this anywhere, I never see it in a public park. Well, most of the time. Field Hockey / Lacross: These are new england elite sports for the most part. Wish I played LAX in HS actually, would have been less fat. Skiing: Access, expensive equipment. Heck the northeast doesn't even have good ski slopes. Sailing/Equestrian: lol, $$$$ for the "vehicle" and you need land or access to a large body of water, both quite spendy.
      • Kon-Peki 4y ago
        Hockey equipment is expensive once you get older. For young kids it is free/cheap. FYI, in most of the US, the NHL will buy your boy or girl their first set of equipment. Search for your nearest NHL team along with the words "Learn to Play" - sign up for a session at your nearest rink. Around me, it's the Chicago Blackhawks and they have sessions at rinks in Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, and Iowa. Some are even girls-only. But anyway, the used sporting equipment stores near those rinks will be overflowing with hockey equipment for really young kids. In other words, it doesn't get expensive until after your kid has really decided they want to do it.
        • grogenaut 4y ago
          That's good on equipment. Smart of the NHL to subsidize like that... Ice rinks do seem to be more common the further north you go, and that's a significant expense as well, tho as you said may be subsidized. Is that true in less-affluent areas?
  • scythe 4y ago
    If you have a low money preference, chances are it's because you already have plenty.
• naniwaduni 4y ago
  Also, the fact that they don't explicitly offer athletic scholarships in no way detracts from the fact that they offer scholarships carefully calibrated to what they think the parents can afford to every student they want.
  • Godel_unicode 4y ago
    Or how the alumni network will show up to give scholarships to prospects who are on the fence. “Oh, you’re thinking about that full ride from State huh? Well wouldn’t you know it, the Smiths just told me they really want to endow a scholarship…”