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That's funny, I see GDPR popups as serving two functions: a daily reminder that Europe has better privacy protections than I do, and website project managers w

That's funny, I see GDPR popups as serving two functions: a daily reminder that Europe has better privacy protections than I do, and website project managers would rather plague the world with unnecesary bullshit than just stop serving unnecessary cookies.

charcircuit 4y ago
>just stop serving unnecessary cookies. If they were truly unnecessary they wouldn't use it because cookie banners are bad ux.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  And over-leveraging your bank is bad business, but they do it anyway.
- 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
  Is this a serious comment? Have you never worked on a large website or even looked at the cookies in the browser?
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    Yes, and considering removing the cookie popup will move metrics, is easily A/B testable, and improves the design it isn't hard to organize an internal effort to remove cookies that aren't actually essential so you can remove the popup.
    - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
      Consider that not only do these pop ups still exist, but the “accept all” button is often prominently displayed or highlighted so it’s the easiest to click. And that looking for the “essential cookies only” button still results in a working website. Also consider that these guys are always A/B testing. A previous employer of mine had multiple features under test at any time. You also don’t think that a whole bunch of developers never thought of just removing all the stuff that wasn’t essential?
      - charcircuit 4y ago
        >the “accept all” button is often prominently displayed or highlighted so it’s the easiest to click Yes, they try and optimize for as many people to accept. >A previous employer of mine had multiple features under test at any time. This isn't an issue as long as participation is chosen such as being in one group doesn't make you more likely to be in a group of another experiment. >You also don’t think that a whole bunch of developers never thought of just removing all the stuff that wasn’t essential? I think you are missing the point of what the law considers essential and what the business considers essential is different. If the definitions matched I do believe that developers would be removing the banner.
drstewart 4y ago
>a daily reminder that Europe has better privacy protections than I do So you're seeing the popups but not benefitting from them? What are the "better" protections that these popups are giving European users that you aren't getting by being served them as well (that isn't just better served by a good cookie / ad blocker)? Please restrict your answer to the POPUPS specifically, as these are your daily reminder.
- stonogo 4y ago
  I'll respectfully decline your arbitrary limitations on my speech, primarily because to follow them would render me incoherent. I said they serve as a reminder, and here you demand to know what protections the popups provide. They can remind me of things without delivering those things directly, which is why I used the phrasing I did. Hope this helps.

charcircuit 4y ago

>just stop serving unnecessary cookies. If they were truly unnecessary they wouldn't use it because cookie banners are bad ux.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
And over-leveraging your bank is bad business, but they do it anyway.
2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
Is this a serious comment? Have you never worked on a large website or even looked at the cookies in the browser?
- charcircuit 4y ago
  Yes, and considering removing the cookie popup will move metrics, is easily A/B testable, and improves the design it isn't hard to organize an internal effort to remove cookies that aren't actually essential so you can remove the popup.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
    Consider that not only do these pop ups still exist, but the “accept all” button is often prominently displayed or highlighted so it’s the easiest to click. And that looking for the “essential cookies only” button still results in a working website. Also consider that these guys are always A/B testing. A previous employer of mine had multiple features under test at any time. You also don’t think that a whole bunch of developers never thought of just removing all the stuff that wasn’t essential?
    - charcircuit 4y ago
      >the “accept all” button is often prominently displayed or highlighted so it’s the easiest to click Yes, they try and optimize for as many people to accept. >A previous employer of mine had multiple features under test at any time. This isn't an issue as long as participation is chosen such as being in one group doesn't make you more likely to be in a group of another experiment. >You also don’t think that a whole bunch of developers never thought of just removing all the stuff that wasn’t essential? I think you are missing the point of what the law considers essential and what the business considers essential is different. If the definitions matched I do believe that developers would be removing the banner.

drstewart 4y ago

>a daily reminder that Europe has better privacy protections than I do So you're seeing the popups but not benefitting from them? What are the "better" protections that these popups are giving European users that you aren't getting by being served them as well (that isn't just better served by a good cookie / ad blocker)? Please restrict your answer to the POPUPS specifically, as these are your daily reminder.

stonogo 4y ago
I'll respectfully decline your arbitrary limitations on my speech, primarily because to follow them would render me incoherent. I said they serve as a reminder, and here you demand to know what protections the popups provide. They can remind me of things without delivering those things directly, which is why I used the phrasing I did. Hope this helps.