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I agree we can't be friends because you would sacrifice your friends and family for a cause. You do not understand your basic moral obligations as a human, that

by _8j50 4y ago

I agree we can't be friends because you would sacrifice your friends and family for a cause. You do not understand your basic moral obligations as a human, that a world better off by sacrificing those who need you or even yourself is a world built by unneccesary sacrifice. You would introduce more suffering into the world when you have tools like democracy and free speech that were paid for by ages of suffering and anguish that have made that unnecesary. You will cause yourself and others to suffer all while not solving the actual problem or making the world better one iota. You would alienate anyone that you need to convince to make change happen so you can feel morally superior. You do not understand that the many rights and betternments you enjoy now was built by people working at places they did not approve of, using their position and power to make change happen. You do not undersrand your contribution into the social divide today that is making the world much worse in every way you can imagine. Not just I but many others are also not your friends and cannot even begin to have discourse with you to have our opinions changed because you have erected barriers of moral outrage and socio-economical activism that forces others to be with or against you. It could be adverising, fossil fuels, finance, insurance, military and this is just for employement we are talking about lol. A house divided is what you have contributed. Witness the not standing part.

em-bee 4y ago
you would sacrifice your friends and family for a cause there is a difference between avoiding people i don't like and abandoning friends or family. you are making a claim that has no basis in reality. i stay away from people who are primarily materialist, so those would never become friends to begin with. the special case that a friend suddenly turns materialist is unlikely to happen. my basic moral obligation as a human is to make a positive contribution to the world. i can't see how i can make a positive contribution to someone who is materially oriented, but there is no need, because i get to choose how and who i contribute to. there is no obligation to work with anyone specific except my parents and my children (and siblings) but you can rest assured that my conviction here is how i grew up so everyone in my immediate family is similarly oriented. there is no risk of abandoning any of them. You would alienate anyone that you need to convince to make change happen so you can feel morally superior i am not alienating anyone. i am staying away from people who try to push their worldview on me like you are doing now. i am holding my ground on my beliefs, but you try to keep telling me that i am wrong. i am not trying to feel morally superior. i am just trying to explain that i reject your moral basis.
- _8j50 4y ago
  You are a materialistic person who pretends you are better than others by denying reality. Feeding yourself and family in your view is being materialistic while usually that word is reserved for someone pursuing pricy things like fancy cars and houses as a way of life which obviously no one suggested in this thread. > i am staying away from people who try to push their worldview on me like you are doing now To the contrary, it is you who are judging others and avoiding them as a tactic to push your "holier than thou" worldview. If you said you don't want to work at a company for whatever moral reasons, I have no objections or opinions on that, the subject here is that you think others should fall in line with your world view. I am not telling you that you are wrong, I am telling you telling others where they should work or judging them based your very subjective beliefs in morality is wrong. Your alienation of others to get them to follow your moral code is my disagreement.

by _8j50 4y ago

em-bee 4y ago

you would sacrifice your friends and family for a cause there is a difference between avoiding people i don't like and abandoning friends or family. you are making a claim that has no basis in reality. i stay away from people who are primarily materialist, so those would never become friends to begin with. the special case that a friend suddenly turns materialist is unlikely to happen. my basic moral obligation as a human is to make a positive contribution to the world. i can't see how i can make a positive contribution to someone who is materially oriented, but there is no need, because i get to choose how and who i contribute to. there is no obligation to work with anyone specific except my parents and my children (and siblings) but you can rest assured that my conviction here is how i grew up so everyone in my immediate family is similarly oriented. there is no risk of abandoning any of them. You would alienate anyone that you need to convince to make change happen so you can feel morally superior i am not alienating anyone. i am staying away from people who try to push their worldview on me like you are doing now. i am holding my ground on my beliefs, but you try to keep telling me that i am wrong. i am not trying to feel morally superior. i am just trying to explain that i reject your moral basis.

_8j50 4y ago
You are a materialistic person who pretends you are better than others by denying reality. Feeding yourself and family in your view is being materialistic while usually that word is reserved for someone pursuing pricy things like fancy cars and houses as a way of life which obviously no one suggested in this thread. > i am staying away from people who try to push their worldview on me like you are doing now To the contrary, it is you who are judging others and avoiding them as a tactic to push your "holier than thou" worldview. If you said you don't want to work at a company for whatever moral reasons, I have no objections or opinions on that, the subject here is that you think others should fall in line with your world view. I am not telling you that you are wrong, I am telling you telling others where they should work or judging them based your very subjective beliefs in morality is wrong. Your alienation of others to get them to follow your moral code is my disagreement.