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Figures that someone who is against the personal right of self defense would also be against citizens having access to basic tech that may be used in a nefariou

Figures that someone who is against the personal right of self defense would also be against citizens having access to basic tech that may be used in a nefarious way The comparison between knives and guns is especially funny, darkly though, in light of the "knife crime" narrative in the UK where the subjects of the crown have already been completely disarmed of guns, so now the state has moved on to taking away knives as much as possible I bet you're against encryption, too. That can facilitate crime, you know.

BiteCode_dev 4y ago
Guns have only one purpose: physical combat. Either commit it, or, hopefully, prevent it. Blades and encryption main purposes are not physical combat. Blades are mostly use for cutting material we use in our daily life, encryption is mainly use to hide communications. I don't agree with Brazil move, mind you. Flippers are not dangerous to the point I would consider seizing them a priority.
- criddell 4y ago
  > Guns have only one purpose Not a fan of biathlon? Although I guess competitive shooting could be seen as a form of combat the same way competitive chess could be.
  - BiteCode_dev 4y ago
    I use my keys to open my amazon packages. But keys are still made to open doors.
    - criddell 4y ago
      But you wouldn't say keys have only one purpose.
      - BiteCode_dev 4y ago
        Yes I would. Purpose has a very specific definition.
- superkuh 4y ago
  >Guns have only one purpose: physical combat. This premise is not true. But I agree, it's generally ignorance about a tool, weather it's firearms or radio, that leads to people and so governments, making false claims and so taking stupid regulatory actions.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    It is really. You can use a gun as a doorstop or a paperweight, but it wasn't designed to that end. It's designed to deliver massive force to a small target at range and though that could be an object (eg in a target shooting competition), the intended target is usually an animal or person. Please don't insult people's intelligence with semantic games.
    - superkuh 4y ago
      It's understandable that most people don't have the lived experience to realize that firearms are mostly for recreation. Most people live in high population density areas where firearms discharge is not allowed or feasible. But for most firearms uses the vast majority of use, and indeed the marketing by the companies that manufacture them, is about the recreational aspect, not shooting people or animals. There's certainly marketing and intent towards hunting but those are .308 rifles and larger calibres explicitly designed for it and they are not the majority of the market. It's not the 1800s anymore.
      - anigbrowl 4y ago
        Many people use firearms for recreation, and I agree that they are great fun. They are designed to put force on a target at range. If you only care about the recreation aspects, you'll be equally happy with a paintball or BB gun.
        superkuh 4y ago
        I have paintball and pellet guns and I can assure you while they are fun it is not the same. Although high calibre (.30) precompressed pneumatic air rifles are approaching the capabilities and fun of combustion propellant firearms pretty rapidly these days. And as a plus you can fire them full auto and with noise mitigation attachments without the legal worries of combustion firearms.
- xdennis 4y ago
  > Guns have only one purpose: physical combat. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of gun owners have never actually shot anyone. More common uses are: training, hunting, collecting, and plain old having fun shooting things. I used to be pretty anti-gun, but the 2020 home protests and Ukrainians initially training with wood guns changed that.
  - krapp 4y ago
    >I'm pretty sure the vast majority of gun owners have never actually shot anyone. More common uses are: training, hunting, collecting, and plain old having fun shooting things. You're confusing use with purpose as if to imply the utility of firearms as tools to commit violence is merely arbitrary, rather than specific to their design. Which is weird because your second sentence makes it clear you know otherwise. Setting aside that hunting is physical combat, the purpose of guns is not to be collected, or to shoot inanimate targets. The founding fathers didn't create the Second Amendment to protect the right of the people to keep and bear arms against watermelons on stumps. Guns may have multiple uses, but their purpose is combat.
- 29athrowaway 4y ago
  It's a form of insurance. You don't get a car insurance to crash your car, just like the US doesn't have nuclear weapons to use them.

BiteCode_dev 4y ago

Guns have only one purpose: physical combat. Either commit it, or, hopefully, prevent it. Blades and encryption main purposes are not physical combat. Blades are mostly use for cutting material we use in our daily life, encryption is mainly use to hide communications. I don't agree with Brazil move, mind you. Flippers are not dangerous to the point I would consider seizing them a priority.

criddell 4y ago
> Guns have only one purpose Not a fan of biathlon? Although I guess competitive shooting could be seen as a form of combat the same way competitive chess could be.
- BiteCode_dev 4y ago
  I use my keys to open my amazon packages. But keys are still made to open doors.
  - criddell 4y ago
    But you wouldn't say keys have only one purpose.
    - BiteCode_dev 4y ago
      Yes I would. Purpose has a very specific definition.
superkuh 4y ago
>Guns have only one purpose: physical combat. This premise is not true. But I agree, it's generally ignorance about a tool, weather it's firearms or radio, that leads to people and so governments, making false claims and so taking stupid regulatory actions.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  It is really. You can use a gun as a doorstop or a paperweight, but it wasn't designed to that end. It's designed to deliver massive force to a small target at range and though that could be an object (eg in a target shooting competition), the intended target is usually an animal or person. Please don't insult people's intelligence with semantic games.
  - superkuh 4y ago
    It's understandable that most people don't have the lived experience to realize that firearms are mostly for recreation. Most people live in high population density areas where firearms discharge is not allowed or feasible. But for most firearms uses the vast majority of use, and indeed the marketing by the companies that manufacture them, is about the recreational aspect, not shooting people or animals. There's certainly marketing and intent towards hunting but those are .308 rifles and larger calibres explicitly designed for it and they are not the majority of the market. It's not the 1800s anymore.
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      Many people use firearms for recreation, and I agree that they are great fun. They are designed to put force on a target at range. If you only care about the recreation aspects, you'll be equally happy with a paintball or BB gun.
      - superkuh 4y ago
        I have paintball and pellet guns and I can assure you while they are fun it is not the same. Although high calibre (.30) precompressed pneumatic air rifles are approaching the capabilities and fun of combustion propellant firearms pretty rapidly these days. And as a plus you can fire them full auto and with noise mitigation attachments without the legal worries of combustion firearms.
xdennis 4y ago
> Guns have only one purpose: physical combat. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of gun owners have never actually shot anyone. More common uses are: training, hunting, collecting, and plain old having fun shooting things. I used to be pretty anti-gun, but the 2020 home protests and Ukrainians initially training with wood guns changed that.
- krapp 4y ago
  >I'm pretty sure the vast majority of gun owners have never actually shot anyone. More common uses are: training, hunting, collecting, and plain old having fun shooting things. You're confusing use with purpose as if to imply the utility of firearms as tools to commit violence is merely arbitrary, rather than specific to their design. Which is weird because your second sentence makes it clear you know otherwise. Setting aside that hunting is physical combat, the purpose of guns is not to be collected, or to shoot inanimate targets. The founding fathers didn't create the Second Amendment to protect the right of the people to keep and bear arms against watermelons on stumps. Guns may have multiple uses, but their purpose is combat.
29athrowaway 4y ago
It's a form of insurance. You don't get a car insurance to crash your car, just like the US doesn't have nuclear weapons to use them.