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I consider DST a hack to move the day-start earlier during the time of the year where the daytime is significantly longer than the night time. It is annoying, b

by _ph_ 4y ago

I consider DST a hack to move the day-start earlier during the time of the year where the daytime is significantly longer than the night time. It is annoying, but to some extend it works - though in my eyes there are clear indications that your schedule has compensated partly for it, reducing its effect. On the other side, the time shift is quite bothersome to many and introduces a lot of efforts which translate into costs. So there are good arguments to abolish it. What I cannot get are the requests for permanent "summer time". It is an illusion, long term. Because our day-rhythm is tied to the motion of the sun. Yes, we have to get up to be at work or in school at the set time, but that time does depend on the motion of the sun. Any short time advantage from "detuning" will be compensated. As you can see in all the places where the time deviates a lot from the astronomical time at that place.

WirelessGigabit 4y ago
I don't think it's an illusion. While I agree that our bodies are tied to the rising and setting of the sun, we have a system in place that combats this. The need to get up for work, alarm clocks, the want of the people to have more time in the evening (i.e. get up & go to work). This has the overall effect that our day is already shifted wrt solar noon. In that case having an additional hour of sunlight in the evening in the dark summer months is more interesting than having it in the morning where most people are on auto-pilot anyway to get to their day-job.
- _ph_ 4y ago
  You are missing something: the day schedule society agreed upon derives from the average run of the sun. School doesn't start at 8 because that is some special number, but because without DST it is the value which works best. You want it to start early in the morning, but late enough that everyone is awake (at least kind of). If society switched to permanent "summer time", sooner or later school starts would shift to 9am, as in the winter 8am would be just too early.
  - adhesive_wombat 4y ago
    > sooner or later school starts would shift to 9am, as in the winter 8am would be just too early. Sounds like a good idea anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_school_later_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_school_later_movement

by _ph_ 4y ago

WirelessGigabit 4y ago

I don't think it's an illusion. While I agree that our bodies are tied to the rising and setting of the sun, we have a system in place that combats this. The need to get up for work, alarm clocks, the want of the people to have more time in the evening (i.e. get up & go to work). This has the overall effect that our day is already shifted wrt solar noon. In that case having an additional hour of sunlight in the evening in the dark summer months is more interesting than having it in the morning where most people are on auto-pilot anyway to get to their day-job.

_ph_ 4y ago
You are missing something: the day schedule society agreed upon derives from the average run of the sun. School doesn't start at 8 because that is some special number, but because without DST it is the value which works best. You want it to start early in the morning, but late enough that everyone is awake (at least kind of). If society switched to permanent "summer time", sooner or later school starts would shift to 9am, as in the winter 8am would be just too early.
- adhesive_wombat 4y ago
  > sooner or later school starts would shift to 9am, as in the winter 8am would be just too early. Sounds like a good idea anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_school_later_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_school_later_movement