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> Offending someone is not a crime except when in Canada, you do not acquiesce to calling someone by their chosen gender pronoun https://www.them.us/story/can

> Offending someone is not a crime except when in Canada, you do not acquiesce to calling someone by their chosen gender pronoun https://www.them.us/story/canadian-court-rules-misgendering-human-rights-violation https://www.them.us/story/canadian-court-rules-misgendering-...

klyrs 4y ago
That's a human rights tribunal, which is basically a lawsuit in a fancy hat. Not a crime.
- jakeogh 4y ago
  Incrementalism. Its exceptionally effective. Before we know it, a comedian will train his dog to show us.
  - klyrs 4y ago
    Lol you yanks have an actual fascist movement underway passing laws against books and education and free expression and here you are repeating their talking points concern-trolling like free speech is under attack in Canada. Get your own house in order.
    - freetime2 4y ago
      There’s no rule that says you can’t be critical of another country’s policies just because your own country also has problems. After all, there are 330 million people living in the US and you can’t hold the parent responsible for all of them.
      - klyrs 4y ago
        Did I, with any authority, say GP can't repeat Republican FUD? Or did I merely have a critical response? Republicans love to point to other countries as boogeymen, "they're coming for your freeeeedoms" all the while: through fear and scapegoat and boogeymen and "religious conviction" they fight tooth and claw to take freedoms away.
        freetime2 4y ago
        You also seem to be assuming the parent is a Republican, and holds a certain set of beliefs and political opinions beyond what they have stated above.
        klyrs 4y ago
        I assume nothing of the sort. Their profile identifies them as a resident of the US, so I called 'em a Yankee. That they're spreading Republican FUD doesn't make them Republican. Anybody can repeat Fox "News" talking points. Hell, I'm sure I have at some time or another. Doesn't mean they necessarily agree with every single thing that comes out of Fibbin' Tucker's lying mouth.
        freetime2 4y ago
        Why do you assume they were influenced by Republican FUD for warning about the dangers of Incrementalism? I have heard many such “slippery-slope” arguments from people of all political persuasions (even though it is considered a logical fallacy). Saying they are “repeating talking points” also implies they have not thought deeply on the issue and considered multiple points of view before arriving at this conclusion - or simply arrived at this position from their own judgment - which of course we have no way of knowing based on what they said.
        klyrs 4y ago
        Yup, I stand opposed to the slope mob. Quote me on that.
cleanchit 4y ago
Not using proper pronouns is putting mental strain on a mentally ill person. Imagine blowing smoke in the face of an asthma patient.
- gameman144 4y ago
  Just to be clear, is this your actual position? In other words, it should be illegal to cause mental strain on a mentally ill person?
  - cleanchit 4y ago
    It should be illegal to finger someone's wound
    - gameman144 4y ago
      But like... this isn't a wound? The fact that something causes me anguish isn't the only factor in whether other people should be allowed to do that thing. E.g. maybe I've had traumatic experiences around being called stupid, and whenever I perceive others as thinking I'm dumb, I remove those experiences. Should it be illegal for people to call me an idiot in such cases?
- barry-cotter 4y ago
  You think all transgender people are mentally ill?
aprilnya 4y ago
notice how this case (OP) is not in a workplace, and happened once, meanwhile the pronoun case is in a workplace, and a repeated pattern of behavior there’s a difference between telling your neighbor to fuck off and your manager intentionally constantly harassing you at work then firing you for it
matbatt38 4y ago
Are you done complaining about other people's rights? Why would you bring that up?
joseph_grobbles 4y ago
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klyrs 4y ago

That's a human rights tribunal, which is basically a lawsuit in a fancy hat. Not a crime.

jakeogh 4y ago
Incrementalism. Its exceptionally effective. Before we know it, a comedian will train his dog to show us.
- klyrs 4y ago
  Lol you yanks have an actual fascist movement underway passing laws against books and education and free expression and here you are repeating their talking points concern-trolling like free speech is under attack in Canada. Get your own house in order.
  - freetime2 4y ago
    There’s no rule that says you can’t be critical of another country’s policies just because your own country also has problems. After all, there are 330 million people living in the US and you can’t hold the parent responsible for all of them.
    - klyrs 4y ago
      Did I, with any authority, say GP can't repeat Republican FUD? Or did I merely have a critical response? Republicans love to point to other countries as boogeymen, "they're coming for your freeeeedoms" all the while: through fear and scapegoat and boogeymen and "religious conviction" they fight tooth and claw to take freedoms away.
      - freetime2 4y ago
        You also seem to be assuming the parent is a Republican, and holds a certain set of beliefs and political opinions beyond what they have stated above.
        klyrs 4y ago
        I assume nothing of the sort. Their profile identifies them as a resident of the US, so I called 'em a Yankee. That they're spreading Republican FUD doesn't make them Republican. Anybody can repeat Fox "News" talking points. Hell, I'm sure I have at some time or another. Doesn't mean they necessarily agree with every single thing that comes out of Fibbin' Tucker's lying mouth.
        freetime2 4y ago
        Why do you assume they were influenced by Republican FUD for warning about the dangers of Incrementalism? I have heard many such “slippery-slope” arguments from people of all political persuasions (even though it is considered a logical fallacy). Saying they are “repeating talking points” also implies they have not thought deeply on the issue and considered multiple points of view before arriving at this conclusion - or simply arrived at this position from their own judgment - which of course we have no way of knowing based on what they said.
        klyrs 4y ago
        Yup, I stand opposed to the slope mob. Quote me on that.

cleanchit 4y ago

Not using proper pronouns is putting mental strain on a mentally ill person. Imagine blowing smoke in the face of an asthma patient.

gameman144 4y ago
Just to be clear, is this your actual position? In other words, it should be illegal to cause mental strain on a mentally ill person?
- cleanchit 4y ago
  It should be illegal to finger someone's wound
  - gameman144 4y ago
    But like... this isn't a wound? The fact that something causes me anguish isn't the only factor in whether other people should be allowed to do that thing. E.g. maybe I've had traumatic experiences around being called stupid, and whenever I perceive others as thinking I'm dumb, I remove those experiences. Should it be illegal for people to call me an idiot in such cases?
barry-cotter 4y ago
You think all transgender people are mentally ill?

aprilnya 4y ago

notice how this case (OP) is not in a workplace, and happened once, meanwhile the pronoun case is in a workplace, and a repeated pattern of behavior there’s a difference between telling your neighbor to fuck off and your manager intentionally constantly harassing you at work then firing you for it

matbatt38 4y ago

Are you done complaining about other people's rights? Why would you bring that up?

joseph_grobbles 4y ago

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