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Sadly, other political bodies do this as well, and it is becoming more common. That clause, I agree, was a mistake. Still, the charter has at least been benef

by b112 4y ago

Sadly, other political bodies do this as well, and it is becoming more common. That clause, I agree, was a mistake. Still, the charter has at least been beneficial in many court cases, and caused many laws to be turfed (many of which, are just dropped forever).

908B64B197 4y ago
>> especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it It would make sense for Quebec to ignore it since, well, they didn't sign it. Just like the US constitution doesn't apply since, well, Canada didn't sign it. > Sadly, other political bodies do this as well, and it is becoming more common. What makes no sense is the federal government can apparently decide to "suspend the constitution" as it pleases (and did so for peaceful freedom of speech demonstrations by truckers recently).
- FireBeyond 4y ago
  > and did so for peaceful freedom of speech demonstrations by truckers recently Ahh yes, the "speech" of 160dB ship horns for 22 hours a day for 3 weeks in residential neighborhoods.
  - nucleardog 4y ago
    Yep. If you don’t live in Ottawa, please stop trying to tell us how peaceful and reasonable the attempt at overthrowing our democratically elected government, attended by nazis flying swastikas on our monuments and involving people trying to burn down buildings, was.
    - version_five 4y ago
      Lol (Just to be clear, is case anyone doesn't know about this, the above is either an absolutely insane or absurdly dishonest characterization, it's easy to do your own research)
      - 908B64B197 4y ago
        I wonder how a civil war refugee would react seeing this [0] [1] labelled as an attempt to overthrow a democratically elected government. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74pbbhCZng https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74pbbhCZng [1] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hzfwaSVIvoA https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hzfwaSVIvoA
        version_five 4y ago
        People in Ottawa used to get about as upset about Bluesfest when it was held downtown, because there was some music from a summer festival for a few nights. They're not really a good measuring stick for how disruptive something is, more like a bunch of entitled civil servants that don't want to be disturbed while they cross off the days until their pensions arrive.
        FireBeyond 4y ago
        Oh come on. Comparing truck and ship horns with closed circuits for 22 hours or more a day to "music from a summer festival" might not be the MOST disingenuous comparison I've heard, but it's pretty close, if not.
      - SonicScrub 4y ago
        I did my own research on the subject when I attempted to skate down the canal (a usually enjoyable winter activity) during that time period. The above characterization is mostly correct. However they forgot to mention the racial slurs. They also forgot to mention the constant harassment of medical staff at city hospitals just trying to get to and from work.
        version_five 4y ago
        A bit ironic to get upset because your canal skate was disturbed by people peacefully protesting a government that was forcing everybody in the country to comply with all sorts of absurd measures.
    - alfor 4y ago
      oh yeah the well known nazi truckers of Canada... Don’t forget the farmers nazi, the nurses nazi, the little kids nazi, the immigrant dark skin nazi. The oppression clearly came from the government, it’s high time to wake up. At this point I don’t know if this is a parody position or you really believe it.
- bawolff 4y ago
  > It would make sense for Quebec to ignore it since, well, they didn't sign it. Just like the US constitution doesn't apply since, well, Canada didn't sign it. I mean, if we're going to make this analogy, the thing that was signed was Treaty of Paris of 1763. The usa only requires 3/4 of state legislators to agree before it becomes binding on all of them. In canada, the rule depends on the thing, but generally its 7 provinces containing >50% of population. Quebec was the only province not to agree to the charter. If we're making a comparison to the usa, it works basically the same way. > What makes no sense is the federal government can apparently decide to "suspend the constitution" as it pleases (and did so for peaceful freedom of speech demonstrations by truckers recently). This is incorrect. The emergencies act did not suspend the constitution.

by b112 4y ago

908B64B197 4y ago

>> especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it It would make sense for Quebec to ignore it since, well, they didn't sign it. Just like the US constitution doesn't apply since, well, Canada didn't sign it. > Sadly, other political bodies do this as well, and it is becoming more common. What makes no sense is the federal government can apparently decide to "suspend the constitution" as it pleases (and did so for peaceful freedom of speech demonstrations by truckers recently).

FireBeyond 4y ago
> and did so for peaceful freedom of speech demonstrations by truckers recently Ahh yes, the "speech" of 160dB ship horns for 22 hours a day for 3 weeks in residential neighborhoods.
- nucleardog 4y ago
  Yep. If you don’t live in Ottawa, please stop trying to tell us how peaceful and reasonable the attempt at overthrowing our democratically elected government, attended by nazis flying swastikas on our monuments and involving people trying to burn down buildings, was.
  - version_five 4y ago
    Lol (Just to be clear, is case anyone doesn't know about this, the above is either an absolutely insane or absurdly dishonest characterization, it's easy to do your own research)
    - 908B64B197 4y ago
      I wonder how a civil war refugee would react seeing this [0] [1] labelled as an attempt to overthrow a democratically elected government. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74pbbhCZng https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74pbbhCZng [1] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hzfwaSVIvoA https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hzfwaSVIvoA
      - version_five 4y ago
        People in Ottawa used to get about as upset about Bluesfest when it was held downtown, because there was some music from a summer festival for a few nights. They're not really a good measuring stick for how disruptive something is, more like a bunch of entitled civil servants that don't want to be disturbed while they cross off the days until their pensions arrive.
        FireBeyond 4y ago
        Oh come on. Comparing truck and ship horns with closed circuits for 22 hours or more a day to "music from a summer festival" might not be the MOST disingenuous comparison I've heard, but it's pretty close, if not.
    - SonicScrub 4y ago
      I did my own research on the subject when I attempted to skate down the canal (a usually enjoyable winter activity) during that time period. The above characterization is mostly correct. However they forgot to mention the racial slurs. They also forgot to mention the constant harassment of medical staff at city hospitals just trying to get to and from work.
      - version_five 4y ago
        A bit ironic to get upset because your canal skate was disturbed by people peacefully protesting a government that was forcing everybody in the country to comply with all sorts of absurd measures.
  - alfor 4y ago
    oh yeah the well known nazi truckers of Canada... Don’t forget the farmers nazi, the nurses nazi, the little kids nazi, the immigrant dark skin nazi. The oppression clearly came from the government, it’s high time to wake up. At this point I don’t know if this is a parody position or you really believe it.
bawolff 4y ago
> It would make sense for Quebec to ignore it since, well, they didn't sign it. Just like the US constitution doesn't apply since, well, Canada didn't sign it. I mean, if we're going to make this analogy, the thing that was signed was Treaty of Paris of 1763. The usa only requires 3/4 of state legislators to agree before it becomes binding on all of them. In canada, the rule depends on the thing, but generally its 7 provinces containing >50% of population. Quebec was the only province not to agree to the charter. If we're making a comparison to the usa, it works basically the same way. > What makes no sense is the federal government can apparently decide to "suspend the constitution" as it pleases (and did so for peaceful freedom of speech demonstrations by truckers recently). This is incorrect. The emergencies act did not suspend the constitution.