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Did he? My understanding was that it was not profitable and that he's been cutting costs and exploring new sources of income (Twitter Blue, API fee, etc.). I do

Did he? My understanding was that it was not profitable and that he's been cutting costs and exploring new sources of income (Twitter Blue, API fee, etc.). I don't know if he'll be successful but his actions seem consistent with him caring about Twitter as a business. In fact, he seems to have sacrificed his public image considerably towards that goal (not consistent with him mostly caring about his "megaphone").

czzr 4y ago
Your understanding is wrong, I’m afraid. Twitter was profitable before the acquisition. (If you look this up don’t be misled by the once-off loss caused by losing a legal case).
- olalonde 4y ago
  Do you have a source on that? I've read several articles claiming that Twitter was only ever profitable in 2018-2019. e.g. https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2022/12/21/twitter-and-its-fight-for-profitability/ https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2022/12/21/twitter-and-its-f...: > Twitter has been operating at a massive loss for years, failing to book an annual profit since 2019 (Mauer, 2022). For eight out of the last ten years, the company has posted a loss.
  - shagmin 4y ago
    It was profitable those 2 years, then they lost a big lawsuit which caused a pretty big loss in 2020. But overall since its IPO 2013 and 2020 were the only years where its cashflow actually got worse - overall it was trending towards a more sustainable cashflow. By silicon valley/US corporation standards that's far from a dumpster fire or anything. https://www.netcials.com/financial-net-profit-year-quarter-usa/1418091-TWITTER-INC/ https://www.netcials.com/financial-net-profit-year-quarter-u...
- pxmpxm 4y ago
  TWTR has underperformed nasdaq by a factor of 2 since going public. It's been a woefully inefficient organization and there's no amount of political bias that can paper over that.
  - rhaway84773 4y ago
    Which has very little to do with profit.
rhaway84773 4y ago
It made a profit 2 years before he bought it. And the only reason it made a loss the last complete fiscal year before he bought it was due to a massive > $1Bn FCC (or FTC?) fine. Twitter’s underlying business was already profitable.

czzr 4y ago

Your understanding is wrong, I’m afraid. Twitter was profitable before the acquisition. (If you look this up don’t be misled by the once-off loss caused by losing a legal case).

olalonde 4y ago
Do you have a source on that? I've read several articles claiming that Twitter was only ever profitable in 2018-2019. e.g. https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2022/12/21/twitter-and-its-fight-for-profitability/ https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2022/12/21/twitter-and-its-f...: > Twitter has been operating at a massive loss for years, failing to book an annual profit since 2019 (Mauer, 2022). For eight out of the last ten years, the company has posted a loss.
- shagmin 4y ago
  It was profitable those 2 years, then they lost a big lawsuit which caused a pretty big loss in 2020. But overall since its IPO 2013 and 2020 were the only years where its cashflow actually got worse - overall it was trending towards a more sustainable cashflow. By silicon valley/US corporation standards that's far from a dumpster fire or anything. https://www.netcials.com/financial-net-profit-year-quarter-usa/1418091-TWITTER-INC/ https://www.netcials.com/financial-net-profit-year-quarter-u...
pxmpxm 4y ago
TWTR has underperformed nasdaq by a factor of 2 since going public. It's been a woefully inefficient organization and there's no amount of political bias that can paper over that.
- rhaway84773 4y ago
  Which has very little to do with profit.

rhaway84773 4y ago

It made a profit 2 years before he bought it. And the only reason it made a loss the last complete fiscal year before he bought it was due to a massive > $1Bn FCC (or FTC?) fine. Twitter’s underlying business was already profitable.