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> If you listened to the entire interview, I don’t know how you managed to mentally substitute the term “Russia” for the term “Marxism-Leninism” for 15 entire m

> If you listened to the entire interview, I don’t know how you managed to mentally substitute the term “Russia” for the term “Marxism-Leninism” for 15 entire minutes. The man is talking about ideological subversion. It’s not about nationalism. He's an ex-KGB spook talking about the actions of a foreign government. Of course it's about nationalism. Said ideological subversion is there to serve the needs of the USSR. He even talks about the "Soviet military complex" that will take over if the US doesn't realize what's happening quickly enough. So said ideology is being propagated to create a crisis that would then allow a foreign state with hostile interests to take over. > Bezmenov already says in 1985 that the ideological program had succeeded beyond all expectations and that Americans were doing most of the work for them. Yes, and living in 2023, we can see he was full of it. Nothing had succeeded. The USSR fell apart, and the current US doesn't have anything approaching a proper left wing, let alone anything resembling Marxism. Soon after that interview, Gorbachov went to the US and had his jaw drop watching a normal supermarket. Even the highest of positions in the USSR had little clue of what was happening in the US back then. They were very far from having the access needed to spread any kind of ideology through entire generations. > That, coupled with the collapse of the USSR, would allow that leftist ideology to mutate into the forms we see today. No, that's the evidence of that he was wrong.

philwelch 4y ago
> Of course it's about nationalism. Said ideological subversion is there to serve the needs of the USSR. The ideology did not exist to serve the needs of the USSR; the USSR existed to serve the needs of the ideology. You can tell because Marxism was a ideological current for decades before the USSR, and because it regrettably persists decades after the fall of the USSR. The USSR exerted a centralized dominance over that ideology--as early as the Spanish Civil War, Soviet-backed groups were purging rival leftist factions on the Republican side. To a less brutal degree, the US has exerted a similar centralized dominance over the liberal democracies of the world.

philwelch 4y ago

> Of course it's about nationalism. Said ideological subversion is there to serve the needs of the USSR. The ideology did not exist to serve the needs of the USSR; the USSR existed to serve the needs of the ideology. You can tell because Marxism was a ideological current for decades before the USSR, and because it regrettably persists decades after the fall of the USSR. The USSR exerted a centralized dominance over that ideology--as early as the Spanish Civil War, Soviet-backed groups were purging rival leftist factions on the Republican side. To a less brutal degree, the US has exerted a similar centralized dominance over the liberal democracies of the world.