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Google at GitHub
- overshard 15y agoThere is nothing here, they are simply preventing spoofing probably. Move along, move along...
- cleverjake 15y agois there any evidence this is legitimate?
- DevX101 15y agoThe fact that the account was just started 1 week ago suggests to me that Github had been preventing squatting on the account until it was official.
- gulbrandr 15y agoYou are right, I tried with Microsoft: http://i.imgur.com/PJiOy.png http://i.imgur.com/PJiOy.png https://github.com/microsoft/ https://github.com/microsoft/
- zbowling 15y agoMicrosoft is on github. Github should let these teams setup an organization under Microsoft as a pointer. https://github.com/microsoft-dpe https://github.com/microsoft-dpe https://github.com/Microsoft-Interop https://github.com/Microsoft-Interop https://github.com/WindowsAzure https://github.com/WindowsAzure
- gulbrandr 15y agoIndeed but it does not change DevX101's point. Also it is strange they did not request the microsoft account
- doty 15y agoThat would require these various teams at Microsoft to act as if they were a single organization. This has historically been difficult for teams at Microsoft.
- gkop 15y agoRight? Apparently they can't even agree on whether or not they want caps or dashes in their organization names.
- skrebbel 15y agoWhich matters!
- zbowling 15y agoWhat is funny is that some of the same engineers are on all these github accounts.
- jf 15y agoI'm working on this. And, yes, it's difficult.
- packetslave 15y agoThis Github account is definitely run by Googlers (Will Norris and Ilya Grigorik). It was announced on one of the internal mailing lists a few days ago as a companion to code.google.com for things like rubygems, not as a replacement of any kind.
- jamesmanning 15y agoany chance they (or github, or someone else) will enable bidirectional syncing of changes? It'd be nice to see 2 or 3 of the ones out there support not just importing, but also methods for automating the syncing of changes, especially if that means that I can do a github pull request and it automagically becomes a branch or patch file sent to an svn-hosted project.
- luigi 15y agoGoogle should acquire GitHub and let the GitHubbers run Google.
- gaving 15y agochrist, don't even joke
- ten7 15y agoAnd if they did acquire GitHub, then I'm sure they'd make all private repos free and create even more of an incentive to use the service. And perhaps the GitHub FE would simply then come bundled with a Google Search Appliance?
- munchor 15y agoOh no, please no! I really hope Google never acquires Github.
- eternalban 15y agoI love Github but if they sell to Google, it will be goodbye.
- Johnyma22 15y agoI concur.
- Karunamon 15y ago<sarcasm intensity=100%> I know! It would be horrible to have the service be free, and integrated with Google's other search and social features and therefore more visible to the world! THE HORROR!!1
- tibix 15y agopeople like you, forgetting the "" the html 4.00 way, are ruining the internez
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- taylorbuley 15y agocode.google.com is a big -- if not the biggest -- Github rival, which makes this move seem like Google is waving the white flag. I wouldn't be surprised if an acquisition is coming.
- yuvadam 15y agoI wouldn't be surprised if GitHubbers say 'no' to said acquisition. Remember: "optimizing for happiness".
- kenneth_reitz 15y agoThey'd never do it.
- grandalf 15y agoConsider GitHub's tiers of employees: founders => early 2 or 3 => next 10 => next 50 How much cash does Github have to keep the last 50 or the next 150 feeling special? This is where managing the business starts to get really hard. I'd assume that the GH founders and first tier employees have probably each banked about $1M so far. A Google acquisition valued at $30-50M would set all of them up nicely and let them move on to other endeavors. In my opinion, only a very generous profit sharing program or a planned acquisition strategy explains the complete lack of rogue employees blogging their gripes. Keep in mind all the drama at Twitter when it was small.
- kneath 15y agoBelieve it or not, cash isn't the only thing that makes people feel special. Maybe we just want to build an amazing company.
- grandalf 15y agoI don't disagree with that at all, but the cynic in me feels like even with such an amazing team the org stuff gets harder (cash aside) as the company grows. However, GH has always exceeded all of my expectations in every possible way, so good luck to you guys whatever path you choose.
- VMG 15y agobye bye google code?
- munchor 15y agoI can't seem to follow them, and I do hope Google starts using Github instead of Google Code. Github is by far the best website for open source projects. It's all mainly due to using git and its interface. Github has a great website design.
- willnorris 15y agoas best I can tell, that appears to be a limitation of organizations on GitHub. For example, it doesn't look like you can follow github.com/facebook or github.com/yahoo either.
- pjscott 15y agoThe thing I like the most about GitHub is that it puts the code first. You go to a web site, and you see these things, in roughly this order: 1. The code. 2. A descriptive readme, which GitHub has successfully trained people how to write. 3. Some miscellaneous buttons and stuff. This definitely leads to a jump-in-and-hack approach, unlike project sites where you end up clicking through a bunch of crap to get to the code. On Google Code, for instance, you have to click on the Source tab, then a tiny link somewhere on the page, and the code browser isn't even that good.
- nupark2 15y agoThis is the thing I hate about github. Hacked up code is all fine and good, but what I'm looking for are the tools that are necessary to make it easy to consume the code: * Stable, versioned releases, with sufficient API (if not ABI) compatibility across releases. * Accurate and complete API documentation (with bonus points for higher-level integration documentation. * A bug tracking system * Mailing lists. These are all historically accepted best-practices that have (and continue) to serve the OSS community well, but they're also practices that are strongly and innately de-emphasized by github's "code first" UX. If github (and git) were facilitating the production of marvelous new libraries and software that we'd never seen before, then maybe I'd acquiesce that it's worthwhile to abandon the best practices above. That, however, has not been my experience. Most of the code is poorly maintained, often abandon-ware, and with unclear lineage. It's unknown which of the 50 forks is the best one to use at any given time, and what the ongoing costs will be to track unstable development branches directly, since there are no releases.
- rhnet 15y agoI like how people have already forked the empty repositories.
- m3koval 15y agoNone of the projects are forked (at least as of now), but thee are quite a few people watching them. That's not really surprising, though, because it seems perfectly valid to watch a project while waiting for the first commit.
- meow 15y agoI guess this would officially mark having code on github a status symbol for both developers and companies :D
- munchor 15y agoWhat about Facebook, Twitter and Microsoft who already had open source projects there?
- willnorris 15y agoGoogle is still very committed to providing a great place to host open source projects at http://code.google.com/hosting http://code.google.com/hosting, that has not changed. But many of us are also fans of GitHub, and recognize that there is a great community of developers there (particularly in the ruby community). The Google account on GitHub has been setup simply as a place where some open source Google projects can be mirrored. As another commenter noted, this is actually one of the points of a DVCS.
- dustineichler 15y ago"But many of us are also fans of GitHub, and recognize that there is a great community of developers there (particularly in the ruby community)", that's an interesting comment. Does Google care about Ruby?
- sudonim 15y agoNo, but google wants to dismiss github as being viable for communities outside of ruby. Especially when they compete with github on some level.
- tjohns 15y agoYes, we do. :) While it doesn't get as much use as other languages internally, there certainly are a number of in-house projects that use it. But more importantly, developers accessing our public APIs use Ruby. We maintain a number of client libraries to make accessing our APIs easier. (We also maintain similar libraries in Objective-C and C#, for example.) Not to mention that Sketchup uses Ruby for scripting: http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/ http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/
- pjscott 15y agoWhat's the model for contributing patches going to look like? With GitHub projects, the usual method is to create a fork, do some work, and send in a pull request with a descriptive note. If it's easy to contribute, more people will do it; this is one of the big reasons why so many people are fans of GitHub. Will contributing to the projects mirrored here be that easy?
- akkartik 15y agoIs "Move along." the default message for an empty repo? It seems.. unfriendly.
- Ironballs 15y agoYou know this is a movie reference, right? If you still doubt it head your way to http://github.com/2394157ysajkfhkly5husdafjkasghf http://github.com/2394157ysajkfhkly5husdafjkasghf which produces an astoundingly familiar 404 message...
- Timothee 15y agoI personally wouldn't have known "Move along" was a Star Wars reference, though I knew about the 404. For the still confused, here is the quote: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/quotes?qt=qt0440731 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/quotes?qt=qt0440731 and here is the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzcWPKAv2Ow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzcWPKAv2Ow
- akkartik 15y agoOh. 2 words don't a quote make. Otherwise I might as well say: "need to" -- Obi Wan
- jrockway 15y agoYes, picking the words is important, but the number of words is unimportant. Consider the minimal example: "Khannnnnnnn!"
- burgerbrain 15y agoIt does when those two words happen to be a complete (and fairly iconic) line.
- deweysmith 15y agoIt produces a 404 until I create a github account with that name.
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- icco 15y agoThis actually took longer than I expected to make it to the front page of Hn. I kind of wish it had waited until all of the repositories were filled out though.
- danso 15y agoSo the google github account was started just a few days ago and is completely empty right now...and yet Githire ranks it as the "Top 1%" by estimated experience. http://githire.com/profiles/google http://githire.com/profiles/google That's some predictive algorithm it's got going
- getsat 15y agoHasn't it already been established multiple times that Githire is garbage? You even have to link your Github account to it to opt out. What a joke.