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If you use the same ID with multiple websites then it can easily be used to connect them, for better or worse. Meanwhile, even if you somehow had secure, irrev

If you use the same ID with multiple websites then it can easily be used to connect them, for better or worse. Meanwhile, even if you somehow had secure, irrevocable ownership of some kind of identifying name or number, websites could still cancel your account with them for any reason and keep you from logging in with that ID. They can use the ID to more easily share reputation information, similar to credit scores. Your ID could be put on a list, similar to what happens with ad blockers and lists of spammers. By itself, ownership of a name or number doesn’t get you much. If you use Google to log in to a website, what it’s really providing is a minimal kind of reputation, sort of like how a captcha vouches that you’re probably not a bot. For an ID to be useful, there needs to be reputation attached, and that isn’t something you can do yourself; other people or entities need to vouch for you. It’s also not permanent. Good reputations can go bad if people decide they don’t like you anymore. Instead of centralizing using a single ID, there’s a lot to be said for having having multiple identities (alts) for when you don’t need reputation and you don’t want what you’re doing to affect unrelated activities.

JohnFen 4y ago
> If you use the same ID with multiple websites then it can easily be used to connect them, for better or worse. This. While I avoid creating accounts as much as I can, when I do, I do not use the same "identity" for each of them. The ability to have multiple independent identities is, in my opinion, essential. What I don't want about any kind of identity system is that I can only have one.
- DerekBickerton 4y ago
  > What I don't want about any kind of identity system is that I can only have one The globalist types[0] are looking to implement such a system. From what I have gathered, they want a social credit score. Unvaccinated? Good luck getting a loan. Posted something 'wrong' on an online message-board? You can't travel. And the list goes on... [0] https://id2020.org/ https://id2020.org/
gnramires 4y ago
That's a good point. I think maybe in that case you should just not use their service (if they require you to give your identity for a web service?). I have used a few services like online banking that require me to upload documents that effectively serve as uniquely identifying me individually. This situation doesn't seem to change with a digital id of sorts. I definitely would avoid using a digital id unless absolutely necessary, such as when dealing with banks, or the government itself. In this sense I think digital id is fine (and at least in my country already exists in some ways without any of those issues). I think at the core digital id is just having a form of asking your government "Can you verify this is me to someone else?" (which is already something you do with id photos, passports, etc.). I wouldn't want to use it everywhere. I think consumer protection laws that restrict denying digital service to a customer (without something like a criminal or legal basis) or indiscriminately requiring digital ids could be useful in reaping the benefits without the downsides.

JohnFen 4y ago

> If you use the same ID with multiple websites then it can easily be used to connect them, for better or worse. This. While I avoid creating accounts as much as I can, when I do, I do not use the same "identity" for each of them. The ability to have multiple independent identities is, in my opinion, essential. What I don't want about any kind of identity system is that I can only have one.

DerekBickerton 4y ago
> What I don't want about any kind of identity system is that I can only have one The globalist types[0] are looking to implement such a system. From what I have gathered, they want a social credit score. Unvaccinated? Good luck getting a loan. Posted something 'wrong' on an online message-board? You can't travel. And the list goes on... [0] https://id2020.org/ https://id2020.org/

gnramires 4y ago

That's a good point. I think maybe in that case you should just not use their service (if they require you to give your identity for a web service?). I have used a few services like online banking that require me to upload documents that effectively serve as uniquely identifying me individually. This situation doesn't seem to change with a digital id of sorts. I definitely would avoid using a digital id unless absolutely necessary, such as when dealing with banks, or the government itself. In this sense I think digital id is fine (and at least in my country already exists in some ways without any of those issues). I think at the core digital id is just having a form of asking your government "Can you verify this is me to someone else?" (which is already something you do with id photos, passports, etc.). I wouldn't want to use it everywhere. I think consumer protection laws that restrict denying digital service to a customer (without something like a criminal or legal basis) or indiscriminately requiring digital ids could be useful in reaping the benefits without the downsides.