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It’s not OSS :( I figured with this type of blog post the finale would be, and everyone can try it out at… Hopefully they do release it OSS eventually.

by iou 4y ago

capableweb 4y ago
They mention Pingora near the end, another similar project, which also isn't OSS so not sure I'd expect this project to eventually end up OSS.
- jgrahamc 4y ago
  Given that we open sourced the runtime for Cloudflare Workers, don't despair about us eventually open sourcing stuff.
- swsieber 4y ago
  > Even though Oxy is a proprietary project, we try to give back some love to the open-source community without which the project wouldn’t be possible by open-sourcing some of the building blocks such as https://github.com/cloudflare/boring https://github.com/cloudflare/boring and https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche. They open sourced a few bits, but those were both mid-last year. I'd say quiche is more interesting than boring.
dmead 4y ago
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- zamnos 4y ago
  Hell yeah I'm using a ton of Oxy at work! Hey why are you all looking at me like that?
  - ehPReth 4y ago
    Just say you have bad acne and all will be forgiven!
- nicoburns 4y ago
  It's also an element that keeps people alive.
- seized 4y ago
  Everyone needs oxygen and too much kills. Shoule we rename that element? Flowing water kills people too, so what are your thoughts on network flows as a term?
nailer 4y ago
For a company that got so much out of NGINX for years this is disappointing.
- jgrahamc 4y ago
  NGINX was great for us for a long time. But there comes a time where your needs and their future plans diverge. We couldn’t keep maintaining a fork and we had features that would have meant a huge effort to shoehorn into the NGINX architecture. And NGINX is written in C and we really wanted to use less memory-unsafe languages after Cloudbleed.
  - SirGiggles 4y ago
    This is a massive segue, but where would memory-unsafe languages be acceptable for use at Cloudflare? I'm assuming existing software that needs to be maintained would be one of the them but what about low-level firmware, kernel code, and so on? Would Rust would a replacement to C in those areas too?
  - nailer 4y ago
    Yes I understand. I’m not complaining about you writing Oxy I’m complaining about the proprietary license after you derived so much value from Open Source, same as the parent comment.

It’s not OSS :( I figured with this type of blog post the finale would be, and everyone can try it out at… Hopefully they do release it OSS eventually.

by iou 4y ago

It’s not OSS :( I figured with this type of blog post the finale would be, and everyone can try it out at… Hopefully they do release it OSS eventually.

capableweb 4y ago

They mention Pingora near the end, another similar project, which also isn't OSS so not sure I'd expect this project to eventually end up OSS.

jgrahamc 4y ago
Given that we open sourced the runtime for Cloudflare Workers, don't despair about us eventually open sourcing stuff.
swsieber 4y ago
> Even though Oxy is a proprietary project, we try to give back some love to the open-source community without which the project wouldn’t be possible by open-sourcing some of the building blocks such as https://github.com/cloudflare/boring https://github.com/cloudflare/boring and https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche https://github.com/cloudflare/quiche. They open sourced a few bits, but those were both mid-last year. I'd say quiche is more interesting than boring.

dmead 4y ago

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zamnos 4y ago
Hell yeah I'm using a ton of Oxy at work! Hey why are you all looking at me like that?
- ehPReth 4y ago
  Just say you have bad acne and all will be forgiven!
nicoburns 4y ago
It's also an element that keeps people alive.
seized 4y ago
Everyone needs oxygen and too much kills. Shoule we rename that element? Flowing water kills people too, so what are your thoughts on network flows as a term?

nailer 4y ago

For a company that got so much out of NGINX for years this is disappointing.

jgrahamc 4y ago
NGINX was great for us for a long time. But there comes a time where your needs and their future plans diverge. We couldn’t keep maintaining a fork and we had features that would have meant a huge effort to shoehorn into the NGINX architecture. And NGINX is written in C and we really wanted to use less memory-unsafe languages after Cloudbleed.
- SirGiggles 4y ago
  This is a massive segue, but where would memory-unsafe languages be acceptable for use at Cloudflare? I'm assuming existing software that needs to be maintained would be one of the them but what about low-level firmware, kernel code, and so on? Would Rust would a replacement to C in those areas too?
- nailer 4y ago
  Yes I understand. I’m not complaining about you writing Oxy I’m complaining about the proprietary license after you derived so much value from Open Source, same as the parent comment.