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>The problem is that smoking is pretty much 100% bad Bad FOR you, yes; bad as an experience, no. It tastes good and facilitates socialization. >social media h

by mikrl 4y ago

>The problem is that smoking is pretty much 100% bad Bad FOR you, yes; bad as an experience, no. It tastes good and facilitates socialization. >social media has some good sides in that it allows you to keep in touch with family and friends who may be far away. It was fun Again, this speaks more to the experience than the health effects. Note that you said ‘it was fun’ in the same way that I can say the cigs I’ve smoked were fun. I don’t think the comparisons are too wrong to be honest. They are both activities that can facilitate ‘fun’ social interactions but with a deleterious effect on one’s health (cardiovascular and mental)

classified 4y ago
> It tastes good and facilitates socialization. Or it tastes like shit and facilitates people running away from the stink of your poison. Maybe they'll socialize over it.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  I think it depends on the people and on the cigarettes. I actually like the taste of one specific cigarette brand. I very rarely smoke, less than a packet a year, if that (0 during 2020 - 2022). I do hate the smell, though.
- squarefoot 4y ago
  That's subjective. I quit smoking 30 years ago and, unless someone smokes directly into my face, I still like the smell of tobacco.
comfypotato 4y ago
I think the issue with the comparison is that cigarettes are much worse. Like the original comment, I won’t be surprised if social media becomes stigmatized as people continue to realize more negative effects, but I doubt any of the effects are going to be as serious as cigarettes. It’s hard to compare the data, but I’m pretty sure smoking is much worse for you. A bad smoking habit is likely to kill you. There’s a point at which you smoke so much that it’s more likely to be the reason you die than anything else. Social media just makes you miserable.
- wyre 4y ago
  I think it’s too early in social media’s life to distinctly say it’s worse than smoking. Not enough time has passed to allow for a long-term longitudinal study on the long-term effects on social media use. While tobacco might be a first-order cause of its ills (cancer, etc), the second order effects of social media might have cascading effects that is too early to tell on a long time frame. I’d be intrigued to read any decade long studies looking at the well-being of users of MySpace and the early adopters of Facebook.
  - comfypotato 4y ago
    There are analogues to social media use in every generation. They are problems we’re already familiar with, they’ve just been amplified. I highly doubt we’ll ever see anything even remotely akin to the risks of tobacco. Tobacco is a medical nightmare. The problems that would likely be caused by social media can be treated and reversed. It’s night and day between the two. As the commenter stated, it’s an unpopular opinion that social media is as bad as cigarettes.
    - hope693 4y ago
      Tldr: -Problem were here before, but not on such a massive scale -No safe place -Parents have way less influence on their children -Younger people are influenced way more by external factors, than more mature people How can you be so sure, that we will never see anything as bad / risky as tabacco? Sure, we do know a lot about the physical consequences to our body, but there is so much more to it than just that. Getting cancer, any other illness or damage to our body sucks, however these are consequences we do know exist. Do you consider, that you probably will hang out with different kind of people and as a consequent develop differently? Do you consider the addiction, not beeing able to concentrate for a long time without a breake, because you are longing for the next cigarette? Do u consider ... This list could go on and on and each of these aspects gets worse the younger you are. Of course I can't tell if these example truely have a big negativ effect on you, but I am sure, that these and other factors shape you as a person. Now we look at social media, which tend to have not that many physical consequences for your body. However there are so many more psychological factors shaping your brain, behavior and habits. Addiction, false role model, always having social pressure just to name a few. You are rigth, these factors did exist before, but in a much smaller scale. Furthermore a parent can only raise and help his children grow and develop as much, as they are spending time together. Nowadays kids spend a lot of time on the internet / social media, which it used to spend with other children playing and while playing with other kids, learning how to behave in a society. Of course we didn't always do as our parent told us, but we never even come close to the f*cked up stuff we see on the internet daily. We never had a million eyes watching every step and be judged by them. Home was a safe place. I spent quit a lot of time on this comment, way too much to be honest, but what I am trying to say is: -These 'normal' factors are on a massive scale and the impact they have, direct or indirect, shouldn't be taken lightly -There is no safe place anymore. If you are not on social media, you are 'different' / 'weird' -Parents have way less influence on the development of their children

by mikrl 4y ago

classified 4y ago

> It tastes good and facilitates socialization. Or it tastes like shit and facilitates people running away from the stink of your poison. Maybe they'll socialize over it.

vladvasiliu 4y ago
I think it depends on the people and on the cigarettes. I actually like the taste of one specific cigarette brand. I very rarely smoke, less than a packet a year, if that (0 during 2020 - 2022). I do hate the smell, though.
squarefoot 4y ago
That's subjective. I quit smoking 30 years ago and, unless someone smokes directly into my face, I still like the smell of tobacco.

comfypotato 4y ago

I think the issue with the comparison is that cigarettes are much worse. Like the original comment, I won’t be surprised if social media becomes stigmatized as people continue to realize more negative effects, but I doubt any of the effects are going to be as serious as cigarettes. It’s hard to compare the data, but I’m pretty sure smoking is much worse for you. A bad smoking habit is likely to kill you. There’s a point at which you smoke so much that it’s more likely to be the reason you die than anything else. Social media just makes you miserable.

wyre 4y ago
I think it’s too early in social media’s life to distinctly say it’s worse than smoking. Not enough time has passed to allow for a long-term longitudinal study on the long-term effects on social media use. While tobacco might be a first-order cause of its ills (cancer, etc), the second order effects of social media might have cascading effects that is too early to tell on a long time frame. I’d be intrigued to read any decade long studies looking at the well-being of users of MySpace and the early adopters of Facebook.
- comfypotato 4y ago
  There are analogues to social media use in every generation. They are problems we’re already familiar with, they’ve just been amplified. I highly doubt we’ll ever see anything even remotely akin to the risks of tobacco. Tobacco is a medical nightmare. The problems that would likely be caused by social media can be treated and reversed. It’s night and day between the two. As the commenter stated, it’s an unpopular opinion that social media is as bad as cigarettes.
  - hope693 4y ago
    Tldr: -Problem were here before, but not on such a massive scale -No safe place -Parents have way less influence on their children -Younger people are influenced way more by external factors, than more mature people How can you be so sure, that we will never see anything as bad / risky as tabacco? Sure, we do know a lot about the physical consequences to our body, but there is so much more to it than just that. Getting cancer, any other illness or damage to our body sucks, however these are consequences we do know exist. Do you consider, that you probably will hang out with different kind of people and as a consequent develop differently? Do you consider the addiction, not beeing able to concentrate for a long time without a breake, because you are longing for the next cigarette? Do u consider ... This list could go on and on and each of these aspects gets worse the younger you are. Of course I can't tell if these example truely have a big negativ effect on you, but I am sure, that these and other factors shape you as a person. Now we look at social media, which tend to have not that many physical consequences for your body. However there are so many more psychological factors shaping your brain, behavior and habits. Addiction, false role model, always having social pressure just to name a few. You are rigth, these factors did exist before, but in a much smaller scale. Furthermore a parent can only raise and help his children grow and develop as much, as they are spending time together. Nowadays kids spend a lot of time on the internet / social media, which it used to spend with other children playing and while playing with other kids, learning how to behave in a society. Of course we didn't always do as our parent told us, but we never even come close to the f*cked up stuff we see on the internet daily. We never had a million eyes watching every step and be judged by them. Home was a safe place. I spent quit a lot of time on this comment, way too much to be honest, but what I am trying to say is: -These 'normal' factors are on a massive scale and the impact they have, direct or indirect, shouldn't be taken lightly -There is no safe place anymore. If you are not on social media, you are 'different' / 'weird' -Parents have way less influence on the development of their children