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One thing to note about Miele's (but not unique about them): It's not trivial to repair them yourself. You need a specialized inductive cable to read error code

by V__ 4y ago

One thing to note about Miele's (but not unique about them): It's not trivial to repair them yourself. You need a specialized inductive cable to read error codes and if you don't want to lose warranty, only a certified repair technician is allowed to fix it. Also, the brand itself is getting more 'blurry'. Miele refrigerators are actually made by Liebherr.

sokoloff 4y ago
In the US, the Magnuson-Moss Act provides significantly more consumer protection than most people think. If you work on a warrantied item and break it, the warranty doesn’t protect you from your own breakage. If you service an item and it has a defect unrelated to your service, the warranty still applies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
avianlyric 4y ago
I think it depends on the failure. I’ve repaired a Miele washing machine recently, and found the insides of it wonderfully overbuilt and modular, with every bit of metal bent over to remove sharp corners. It was a real pleasure to work inside of. Far better than the AEG I repaired just before, that was all tightly integrated parts, and sharp edges just waiting to slice you up.
- V__ 4y ago
  Absolutely, mechanically the inside is great. Electric errors and problems, might be the challenge.
  - techcode 4y ago
    That sounds like any (semi)good car in the last 10-20 years. Like 5-6 years old Skoda Octavia (which are generally lasting so long YouTube nickname for them is "Good 'ol miles"). Until one evening you park it just fine in front of your house. And next morning power steering is no longer working. Official VAG dealer/repair shop folks were like "Well you know it's electric stuff like light-bulb - one day it works, and next day you want to turn it on and it goes poof". Except this light bulb is angle sensor, power/hydraulics and T beam "sealed" all-in-one, and costs 1-2K Eur (which was ~10% of whole cars worth).
techcode 4y ago
Unlike cost saving/outsourcing combinations like Renault cars or Grundig TVs being made in Turkey. Or other PR releases mentioning keywords like "synergy" (say Microchip/Atmel comes to mind). Well I don't know about Liebherr excavators and such machinery. But Liebherr refrigerators and freezers are amongst the best there are.

by V__ 4y ago

sokoloff 4y ago

In the US, the Magnuson-Moss Act provides significantly more consumer protection than most people think. If you work on a warrantied item and break it, the warranty doesn’t protect you from your own breakage. If you service an item and it has a defect unrelated to your service, the warranty still applies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act

avianlyric 4y ago

I think it depends on the failure. I’ve repaired a Miele washing machine recently, and found the insides of it wonderfully overbuilt and modular, with every bit of metal bent over to remove sharp corners. It was a real pleasure to work inside of. Far better than the AEG I repaired just before, that was all tightly integrated parts, and sharp edges just waiting to slice you up.

V__ 4y ago
Absolutely, mechanically the inside is great. Electric errors and problems, might be the challenge.
- techcode 4y ago
  That sounds like any (semi)good car in the last 10-20 years. Like 5-6 years old Skoda Octavia (which are generally lasting so long YouTube nickname for them is "Good 'ol miles"). Until one evening you park it just fine in front of your house. And next morning power steering is no longer working. Official VAG dealer/repair shop folks were like "Well you know it's electric stuff like light-bulb - one day it works, and next day you want to turn it on and it goes poof". Except this light bulb is angle sensor, power/hydraulics and T beam "sealed" all-in-one, and costs 1-2K Eur (which was ~10% of whole cars worth).

techcode 4y ago

Unlike cost saving/outsourcing combinations like Renault cars or Grundig TVs being made in Turkey. Or other PR releases mentioning keywords like "synergy" (say Microchip/Atmel comes to mind). Well I don't know about Liebherr excavators and such machinery. But Liebherr refrigerators and freezers are amongst the best there are.