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If you think government is a purely coercive entity, dedicated to enslaving humanity, why would you want the id that it provides? The reason is to access the s

If you think government is a purely coercive entity, dedicated to enslaving humanity, why would you want the id that it provides? The reason is to access the services it licences. Government and its ids, licenses, laws and monopoly on force, is not there to help. And yet, despite all the examples of how government is by far and away the cause of most problems we experience, on hn you will find endless discussion on how to best assist it. Eg here - 'what type of id is best?'. It's amazing. Programmers, technologists, etc seem to be hardwired to develop the enslavement structure of everyone, including themselves, for the sake of some perceived comforts, such as a nice holiday, better car. Its literally turkeys voting for Christmas, as we plan and develop the hardcore enslavement of the future. Just think - do woodland creatures need id? Does any individual need an id? No. It is only useful if you want to control access to this or that for others. Ie you want to force your control on others who are doing you no wrong.

matheusmoreira 4y ago
Completely agree. The real problem is these services demanding IDs to begin with. They should just accept some random identifier without complaining. That's how it used to be on the internet and it was great. The more the web strays from that, the more painful it becomes. I don't even have to register a nick on IRC but Discord pesters me for my phone number. Why?
- micropresident 4y ago
  Spam is the reason. Phone numbers are a costly resource to spammers. Having them permanently banned from Discord after spamming is a way to keep spam down quite a lot. I've been working on this exact problem for years, and have solved it differently. If anyone is interested, here's the draft whitepaper on my solution: https://www.stampchat.io/whitepaper.pdf https://www.stampchat.io/whitepaper.pdf
  - Buildstarted 4y ago
    Not quite sure what's wrong but the FAQ on your site doesn't expand when you click the questions. Debugger says `__webpack_require__` is undefined. (no adblock or scriptblock)

matheusmoreira 4y ago

Completely agree. The real problem is these services demanding IDs to begin with. They should just accept some random identifier without complaining. That's how it used to be on the internet and it was great. The more the web strays from that, the more painful it becomes. I don't even have to register a nick on IRC but Discord pesters me for my phone number. Why?

micropresident 4y ago
Spam is the reason. Phone numbers are a costly resource to spammers. Having them permanently banned from Discord after spamming is a way to keep spam down quite a lot. I've been working on this exact problem for years, and have solved it differently. If anyone is interested, here's the draft whitepaper on my solution: https://www.stampchat.io/whitepaper.pdf https://www.stampchat.io/whitepaper.pdf
- Buildstarted 4y ago
  Not quite sure what's wrong but the FAQ on your site doesn't expand when you click the questions. Debugger says `__webpack_require__` is undefined. (no adblock or scriptblock)