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Trucker's protest was similarly divided in US That's exactly what he's saying. It wasn't divided between people who believe in the rights of protestors and peo
by causi 4y ago
Trucker's protest was similarly divided in US
That's exactly what he's saying. It wasn't divided between people who believe in the rights of protestors and people who didn't; it was divided between pro and anti-vaxxers, which is largely to say between the political Left and Right. I don't know if there ever was a political core that cared more about their principles of governance (good or bad) than their "side" but it's gone now. The people who dismissed the threat of BLM protests/riots being COVID super-spreader events in 2020 wanted truckers lynched for clogging up a city and honking their horns. On the other side, the same people cheering on an entire city in gridlock and effectively tortured by constant horn noise wanted police to gun down entire crowds for looting a Walmart. Both of them cloaked their defenses with cries of "free speech!" and both called for repression in the name of order and safety. Those of us who apply the same principles to people we love and hate, speech we cheer and find nauseating, are an endangered species.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y agoThank you. That makes more sense. I think I did not parse parent's post right. I personally want to believe I apply the principles evenly, but uncharitable interpretation can do a lot to point out even slightest inconsistency derived from competing priorities ( and everyone has different ranking of those ).
- verall 4y agoDo you feel like it is applying the same principles to people you both love and hate to characterize BLM protests as riots and truckers protests as "honking their horns"?
- 4dayworkweek4u 4y agoLook up the G.F protests death count.
- vuln 4y agoPerhaps it was the coverage I saw but I didn't see any looting, property destruction, or any fights with law enforcement with the truckers protest. That's not to say it didn't happen. Could be the difference between the US and Canada media. The truckers also had bouncy houses, food tents and trucks, DJs and dancing in the street. Seems like a good time compared to CHOP and other autonomous zones where people were murdered.
- verall 4y agoIt's trivial to find examples of food tents, clashing with police, and DJs in both groups, so it's probably a difference in the media you are watching, and these aren't very good examples. I think it may make more sense to try to make a judgement as to the reason for the protests. My best understanding of the truckers protest they were protesting Canada requiring truckers who crossed the US-Canada border to be vaccinated, while the BLM protesters were protesting US police negligence, uses of force, and perceived lack of oversight. Maybe the split is more about those who judge the reasons for protesting vs the methods of protesting rather than left vs right. In any case I don't think counting bouncy houses is productive.
- vuln 4y ago> In any case I don't think counting bouncy houses is productive. What about murders or shootings? Would that conversation be productive? https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/family-of-16-year-old-killed-in-chop-zone-alleges-seattles-failings-enabled-a-state-created-danger/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/fam... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Occupied_Protest https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Occupied_Protes...
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- causi 4y agoBLM protests were many separate events, containing both peaceful protests and riots. The trucker protests were largely a single event, which, while economically destructive, did not involve burning buildings or overturned police cars. Also it seems like you didn't make it to the next sentence, where I characterized the trucker protest as an entire city in gridlock and effectively tortured by constant horn noise.