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Working from home is a sham. It doesn't work. It's just a way to enable lazy people to keep on coasting. If you're dedicated to the job and want to be a team p

Working from home is a sham. It doesn't work. It's just a way to enable lazy people to keep on coasting. If you're dedicated to the job and want to be a team player, go to the office.

sirwhinesalot 4y ago
I am not dedicated to the job beyond doing what is asked for me to the best of my ability and my team is distributed all over the world (in fact, 0 are in my office). I exchange my time, skills and knowledge for money. If the company wants that time to be spent sitting on a chair at a particular location, they need to pay me more than one that does not. I feel sorry for people like you who make their job their life. The company has no dedication to you.
- mgaunard 4y ago
  having no drive to push beyond what's asked of you means you're not fit to have a strategic role.
rychco 4y ago
In what way does it not work, when perhaps my position only requires that I attend virtual meetings, push code to a remote repository/depot, & edit online documents? What does my presence in the office, offer in value to the business? What does my presence in the office, offer in value to ME?
- mgaunard 4y ago
  Your position requires that you dedicate your time to improving or promoting the company's products. Virtual meetings and collaboration platforms are but tools to achieve that. An event better tool is working next to your colleagues to enable more synergy between the various initiatives people are working on organically. As someone dedicated to your company's mission, you should want to use the best tool for the job.
roarcher 4y ago
I've been doing this "sham" for 3 years, but somehow my work is still getting done. Weird. The fact that you can't believe anyone would have the discipline to do their job without someone looking over their shoulder says far more about you than about remote workers.
zainhoda 4y ago
I think the fundamental issue is that there is a distribution: 1. “the coaster”: won’t do anything on their own initiative and needs to have a manager to get anything done 2. “the clock in, clock out”: they do the job for a full workday and don’t need supervision but they don’t go above and beyond 3. “the always on”: loves what they do and is always working and contributing. They may work weird hours like really early in the morning or really late at night. They use the saved commute time as an opportunity to get started earlier or work later If your firm’s hiring process has inadvertently optimized for #1 then WFH will not work. If the firm has managed to find enough #3, then RTO will damage company productivity. Ironically, the fact that Apple was able to make the migration from PowerPC to Intel back in the day was because they gave a #3 type employee a special exemption to WFH. One of the things remote-first companies are going to need to do is to migrate from interviews that are centered around “what you know” to “show me you can get stuff done”

Working from home is a sham. It doesn't work. It's just a way to enable lazy people to keep on coasting. If you're dedicated to the job and want to be a team player, go to the office.

sirwhinesalot 4y ago

I am not dedicated to the job beyond doing what is asked for me to the best of my ability and my team is distributed all over the world (in fact, 0 are in my office). I exchange my time, skills and knowledge for money. If the company wants that time to be spent sitting on a chair at a particular location, they need to pay me more than one that does not. I feel sorry for people like you who make their job their life. The company has no dedication to you.

mgaunard 4y ago
having no drive to push beyond what's asked of you means you're not fit to have a strategic role.

rychco 4y ago

In what way does it not work, when perhaps my position only requires that I attend virtual meetings, push code to a remote repository/depot, & edit online documents? What does my presence in the office, offer in value to the business? What does my presence in the office, offer in value to ME?

mgaunard 4y ago
Your position requires that you dedicate your time to improving or promoting the company's products. Virtual meetings and collaboration platforms are but tools to achieve that. An event better tool is working next to your colleagues to enable more synergy between the various initiatives people are working on organically. As someone dedicated to your company's mission, you should want to use the best tool for the job.

roarcher 4y ago

I've been doing this "sham" for 3 years, but somehow my work is still getting done. Weird. The fact that you can't believe anyone would have the discipline to do their job without someone looking over their shoulder says far more about you than about remote workers.

zainhoda 4y ago

I think the fundamental issue is that there is a distribution: 1. “the coaster”: won’t do anything on their own initiative and needs to have a manager to get anything done 2. “the clock in, clock out”: they do the job for a full workday and don’t need supervision but they don’t go above and beyond 3. “the always on”: loves what they do and is always working and contributing. They may work weird hours like really early in the morning or really late at night. They use the saved commute time as an opportunity to get started earlier or work later If your firm’s hiring process has inadvertently optimized for #1 then WFH will not work. If the firm has managed to find enough #3, then RTO will damage company productivity. Ironically, the fact that Apple was able to make the migration from PowerPC to Intel back in the day was because they gave a #3 type employee a special exemption to WFH. One of the things remote-first companies are going to need to do is to migrate from interviews that are centered around “what you know” to “show me you can get stuff done”