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I'm curious if other's have been experiencing this. I'm at my second job now where there's a big push to off-shore to India. If you can be remote, to an exec,

by taude 4y ago

I'm curious if other's have been experiencing this. I'm at my second job now where there's a big push to off-shore to India. If you can be remote, to an exec, they might not see it too differently between you and offshore, except for how much better the bottom line is. We're even hiring roles that I thought I'd never see moved over there, too, like Product Managers. I bet we'll see this trend increase. Since this is my second go at offshoring everything. Compared to 2015, it's not nearly as cheap to go get offshore talent. It used to be about 1/6th the cost, now it's about 1/2.... I'm curious about other's experience with this. I took current job because we were a very tech-driven, high performing, highly-skilled company, and I never thought we'd move engineering jobs overseas to improve the bottom line.

DogLover_ 4y ago
Same here. What I found curious though is that the push is coming from the investors and not from the company itself.
- taude 4y ago
  I believe my situation is investor driven, too.
tristor 4y ago
I've seen this too, and I've also seen the results. I'm highly confident that this trend will cause those companies that adopt it to suffer and that it won't negatively impact the job market in the West. The reality is that there aren't enough people competent in tech roles in the entire world to serve the global need for people with those skillsets, and I encourage my employer to hire remote, from anywhere in the world, and pay a Western salary, to get the best talent possible to do the job. This is a different tactic than "offshoring", which is usually driven by bean counters without any regard to strategic alignment, work quality, or how it impacts customers and the long-term trajectory of the company/brand. There are enough companies and teams in tech like mine that hire people wherever they are that are competent, that companies focused on "offshoring" get people at a lower cost, but also at a significantly lower competency. That ratio used to be roughly equal, but as you pointed out the cost is roughly 1/2, however the competency is still around 1/6th.

by taude 4y ago

DogLover_ 4y ago

Same here. What I found curious though is that the push is coming from the investors and not from the company itself.

taude 4y ago
I believe my situation is investor driven, too.

tristor 4y ago

I've seen this too, and I've also seen the results. I'm highly confident that this trend will cause those companies that adopt it to suffer and that it won't negatively impact the job market in the West. The reality is that there aren't enough people competent in tech roles in the entire world to serve the global need for people with those skillsets, and I encourage my employer to hire remote, from anywhere in the world, and pay a Western salary, to get the best talent possible to do the job. This is a different tactic than "offshoring", which is usually driven by bean counters without any regard to strategic alignment, work quality, or how it impacts customers and the long-term trajectory of the company/brand. There are enough companies and teams in tech like mine that hire people wherever they are that are competent, that companies focused on "offshoring" get people at a lower cost, but also at a significantly lower competency. That ratio used to be roughly equal, but as you pointed out the cost is roughly 1/2, however the competency is still around 1/6th.