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Sure. So some people will work for remote-first companies and some people will for for office-first companies. There's no one-size-fits all and different compa

• shakes_mcjunkie 4y ago
  > You're not forced to work at any particular company This is just false. People can be stuck at a company for a variety of reasons.
  • shanebellone 4y ago
    Stuck != Force
    • shakes_mcjunkie 4y ago
      Functionally what's the difference?
      • shanebellone 4y ago
        The former represents self-limitation. Edit: Unless one finds themself forcefully bound and therefore literally stuck.
  • prepend 4y ago
    I’ve never met a good programmer who didn’t always have a trail of unsolicited job offers following them. Obviously there are many situations, but I think many people can be selective about where they work.
    • drdec 4y ago
      You don't meet those good programmers because they are bad at networking. You are much more likely to meet the ones that are good at networking.
    • shard 4y ago
      And what does that mean for the largest group in the bell curve: the medium skilled programmer, who does ok but nonmagical work? Not everyone has the ability to be one or two standard deviations above the median.
      • bluefirebrand 4y ago
        Trust me they are being pursued by recruiters too Because recruiters can't tell the difference.
        • CydeWeys 4y ago
          I've been pursued 10X more by recruiters ever since I've had Google on my resume. That they can tell, and I'll say that Google did a pretty good job of interviewing back in 2014.
      • jen20 4y ago
        I’m not convinced software engineering “skill” actually follows a normal distribution. People tend to have a huge impact, either positive or negative.
        • 3np 4y ago
          Skill does not necessarily manifest as impact. Someone having positive impact in one org will have negative impact in the same role on another.
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• KronisLV 4y ago
  > There's no one-size-fits all and different companies will work with different models. You're not forced to work at any particular company and no company should be expected to be the right place for all profiles. I think that certain things being "normalized" industry wide has better outcomes, such as someone with a bad commute being able to speak up about working remotely could get rid of that, because remote work is considered commonplace now. Or maybe someone who has a busy home life could be able to spend more time in the office with reserved seating or get a coworking space funded. Remote work wasn't always "normal" and many didn't even see it as viable if not for the pandemic. Some are mandating returns to the office and a part of that extends to the shaping of the public perception of remote work, along exaggerated statements like "remote workers are worse at collaboration and don't even have the discipline to get dressed properly". While I don't follow Joshua Fluke, I think he had a few videos about similar statements on his YouTube channel a year or two back - sometimes outright misrepresentations of remote work, made to fit a particular perspective. But as long as people don't attempt to misrepresent what remote/in-office work is like, I think it's perfectly fine for organizations to structure themselves around whatever works for them. I just figured I'd mention the public perception aspect of it all, because sometimes stigma is harmful, e.g. how discussing one's compensation being "taboo" in some places can make one's perception of how much a certain kind of work is valued at inaccurate.