>Its clear from your post you don't have much experience with being around small kids for longer time. Yep, that is literally what day care is for. This is how

>Its clear from your post you don't have much experience with being around small kids for longer time. Yep, that is literally what day care is for. This is how things have been done for decades. How are things all of a sudden any different - other than now the father is working from home and the mother can offload onto him and eat into his work time. As with everything having kids requires sacrifices, meaning you lose your free time since you have to build and take care of your family, but then trying to now shift that on the employer is unreasonable. >a lot of lonely Again (not-so) subtle attack on my person. Of course I must be lonely (and probably a loser) since I prefer to have the perks of working in an office. >Most of what you describe is just matter of a bit of discipline Aaand there comes the dismissing. >heck get it delivered home if you are so lazy I would if I could. No place delivers before 10 or 11. However this is due to the city I live in. I am sure in bigger expensive city I could get coffee delivered at 6, but not here. Also since again I've made the sacrifice with pay I don't want to be paying 10€+ every morning to get coffee delivered, I could afford it, but I am not so well off that I wouldn't notice it in my finances. >you don't want to clear snow to go to gym (which is TBH ridiculous if you think about it). More dismissal. Yeah, you can think it is ridiculous, but I think having kids is ridiculous so that argument doesn't hold much weight.