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Criticising the Telegraph has nothing to do with dismissing the opposition to the Labour party. If anybody’s IQ dropped significantly after 2012, it is the targ

by mmarq 4y ago

Criticising the Telegraph has nothing to do with dismissing the opposition to the Labour party. If anybody’s IQ dropped significantly after 2012, it is the target readership of this paper, that went from being a respectable newspaper to a news outlet peddling anti-immigrant, anti-eu and, more recently, anti-lockdown rhetoric. It has become a Daily Mail with slightly less idiotic headlines and more conventional graphics, with a mission to get Johnson back to Number 10. I don’t think it is by chance that they decided to publish Hancock’s irrelevant leaks the day after Sunak solved the problems that Johnson created in Northern Ireland.

ETH_start 4y ago
>>Criticising the Telegraph has nothing to do with dismissing the opposition to the Labour party. The OP specifically mentioned being pro-Tory "a mouth piece for Tory anti-lockdown "reporters" And the fact that you also list a number of Tory positions that they support, including the opposition to lockdowns, as if it's self-evident that holding those positions disqualifies them as a respectable source, is exactly what I'm talking about.
- mmarq 4y ago
  It is true that they are a mouth piece for the Tory party, particularly for Boris Johnson. It is also true that they are not a respectable source since at least 2014, when they started publishing idiocies such as: - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11599609/Asylum-figures-take-centre-stage-in-new-EU-negotiations.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11599609... - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/mayday-i-have-a-crush-on-our-prime-minister--and-im-not-alone/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/mayday-i-have-a... - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/02/watch-eu-vaccine-crisis-showing-others-benefits-brexit/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/02/watch-eu-vaccine... - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/brexiteers-can-now-show-remainers-tangible-benefit-leaving-eu/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/brexiteers-can-now-sh... Finally, it is also a fact that they are currently a mounth piece for anti-lockdown "reporters". We put that in quotes because (1) none of them would be able to understand any of the random papers they cherrypick and (2) they actively contributed to Johnson's electoral campaign in 2019, knowing that he would make a mess (as he did with lockdowns and covid management).
  - ETH_start 4y ago
    None of that addresses my point, which is that implicit in your argument is the premise that being pro-Tory, or supporting Tory positions like opposing lockdowns, makes one not respectable.

by mmarq 4y ago

ETH_start 4y ago

>>Criticising the Telegraph has nothing to do with dismissing the opposition to the Labour party. The OP specifically mentioned being pro-Tory "a mouth piece for Tory anti-lockdown "reporters" And the fact that you also list a number of Tory positions that they support, including the opposition to lockdowns, as if it's self-evident that holding those positions disqualifies them as a respectable source, is exactly what I'm talking about.

mmarq 4y ago
It is true that they are a mouth piece for the Tory party, particularly for Boris Johnson. It is also true that they are not a respectable source since at least 2014, when they started publishing idiocies such as: - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11599609/Asylum-figures-take-centre-stage-in-new-EU-negotiations.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11599609... - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/mayday-i-have-a-crush-on-our-prime-minister--and-im-not-alone/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/mayday-i-have-a... - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/02/watch-eu-vaccine-crisis-showing-others-benefits-brexit/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/02/watch-eu-vaccine... - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/brexiteers-can-now-show-remainers-tangible-benefit-leaving-eu/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/brexiteers-can-now-sh... Finally, it is also a fact that they are currently a mounth piece for anti-lockdown "reporters". We put that in quotes because (1) none of them would be able to understand any of the random papers they cherrypick and (2) they actively contributed to Johnson's electoral campaign in 2019, knowing that he would make a mess (as he did with lockdowns and covid management).
- ETH_start 4y ago
  None of that addresses my point, which is that implicit in your argument is the premise that being pro-Tory, or supporting Tory positions like opposing lockdowns, makes one not respectable.