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To be fair the grandparent post did not elaborate, but not everyone is locked into doing nothing during their commute. People using public transport might be

To be fair the grandparent post did not elaborate, but not everyone is locked into doing nothing during their commute. People using public transport might be able to do all sorts of things like reading or creative work. That’s of course hard if you need to drive yourself. But if you are able to make good use of that time one could consider it not lost. Maybe commute should be clocked in for jobs that don’t rely on physical presence?

t43562 4y ago
You often cannot do anything on the commute because you have walk, train, walk, bus, walk and no period is long enough to get anything useful done.
- johnbellone 4y ago
  I average about 20-25 audiobooks a year. Commute time was some prime listening.
  - Gordonjcp 4y ago
    I've got the John le Carré George Smiley Collection on at the moment. Blasting through snowy countryside on a beautiful sunny day listening to tales of Cold War spies? Cannot be beat.
precompute 4y ago
Commute does not allow for flow-like experiences.
Yizahi 4y ago
The key word is might. I was commuting in a big city, 1+ hour one way, regardless car or public transit. So you'd think that in the latter case I had 40-50 minutes to do stuff? Wrong. First you need to wait for the transport, technically you can read something quickly while waiting, but you always need to watch for car numbers, not to miss yours, and holding a phone out in winder is fucking cold. In summer sun blinding a screen and causing it to overheat due to max brightness. Then you are riding in the overcrowded tram or bus, one hand holding the rail not to fall, so no typing, and reading is rather limited when you are packed like sardines. Then you repeat all that for the second leg of the trip (not many are lucky to have a direct line to work). So all in all out of 1 wasted hour you maybe read for like 10 minutes total in shitty conditions. Oh, and reading standing really hurts your neck (because you are reading face down), spine (because you are always in the asymmetrical stance), and hand (carpal syndrome from holding too wide phone and doing swiping gestures with the same hand). Commuting in the car obviously makes impossible to do anything else. Total efficiency of commute is about zero.
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  > Commuting in the car obviously makes impossible to do anything else. I don't understand why you'd think that. Do you just sit motionless, thoughtless, and in perfect silence in the car?

t43562 4y ago

You often cannot do anything on the commute because you have walk, train, walk, bus, walk and no period is long enough to get anything useful done.

johnbellone 4y ago
I average about 20-25 audiobooks a year. Commute time was some prime listening.
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  I've got the John le Carré George Smiley Collection on at the moment. Blasting through snowy countryside on a beautiful sunny day listening to tales of Cold War spies? Cannot be beat.

precompute 4y ago

Commute does not allow for flow-like experiences.

Yizahi 4y ago

The key word is might. I was commuting in a big city, 1+ hour one way, regardless car or public transit. So you'd think that in the latter case I had 40-50 minutes to do stuff? Wrong. First you need to wait for the transport, technically you can read something quickly while waiting, but you always need to watch for car numbers, not to miss yours, and holding a phone out in winder is fucking cold. In summer sun blinding a screen and causing it to overheat due to max brightness. Then you are riding in the overcrowded tram or bus, one hand holding the rail not to fall, so no typing, and reading is rather limited when you are packed like sardines. Then you repeat all that for the second leg of the trip (not many are lucky to have a direct line to work). So all in all out of 1 wasted hour you maybe read for like 10 minutes total in shitty conditions. Oh, and reading standing really hurts your neck (because you are reading face down), spine (because you are always in the asymmetrical stance), and hand (carpal syndrome from holding too wide phone and doing swiping gestures with the same hand). Commuting in the car obviously makes impossible to do anything else. Total efficiency of commute is about zero.

Gordonjcp 4y ago
> Commuting in the car obviously makes impossible to do anything else. I don't understand why you'd think that. Do you just sit motionless, thoughtless, and in perfect silence in the car?