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OpenAI is doing an amazing job fueling hype and intrigue. It is hard to separate what is real and what is imagined. Previously, I heard that Bing Chat was base

OpenAI is doing an amazing job fueling hype and intrigue. It is hard to separate what is real and what is imagined. Previously, I heard that Bing Chat was based on GPT4. Is this true or not? Is it publicly known, or not? Certainly the model is far more powerful than what is in ChatGPT. If Bing is GPT4, did they remove its multimodal capabilities? If Bing is not GPT4, what is it? Does there exist a GPT3.5-mega with vastly improved reasoning capabilities and larger context windows? I find the current moment in tech quite confusing.

htrp 4y ago
gpt3 is referred to as davinci-003 chatgpt is what they call got3.5-turbo-0301 (current month checkpoint) bingGPT is a allegedly finetuned version of gpt3.5 turbo that is better with search results.... microsoft internally calls it prometheus. You may also hear it referred to as Sydney. i suspect GPT4 is just a bad translation
- famouswaffles 4y ago
  bing is definitely not just a finetuned turbo. and microsoft have said as much.
- MattRix 4y ago
  minor correction: The original davinci is GPT 3 but davinci-003 is GPT 3.5
- irthomasthomas 4y ago
  >chatgpt is what they call got3.5-turbo-0301 (current month checkpoint) Then why does the chatgpt endpoint show as text-davinci-002-render-sha? It's very confusing.
  - htrp 4y ago
    No clue... I'm just looking at the developer docs (which I assume OpenAI isn't lying about) > ChatGPT is powered by gpt-3.5-turbo, OpenAI’s most advanced language model. https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/chat https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/chat
famouswaffles 4y ago
There are many multimodal models that take an existing text only llm and do some visual training. Blip-2, Fromage, prismer and palm-e are examples. Multimodal isn't necessarily multimodality from scratch
IIAOPSW 4y ago
Have I missed something? Last I heard Bing chat was off the rails, "vastly improving" the ability to rationalize contradictions rather than to reason. There was that screenshot going around where, facing a logical inconsistency, it resolved it by insisting to the user the current year is 2021.
- arcanemachiner 4y ago
  It was 2022. Watching the Bing Chat escapades is both hilarious and mildly unsettling. It reminds me _so strongly_ of the sarcastic evil AI that runs the levels in the _Portal_ games.
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    > It reminds me _so strongly_ of the sarcastic evil AI that runs the levels in the _Portal_ games. Isn't GLaDOS a brain scan, not an AI?
    - jamilton 4y ago
      She's a machine and she's intelligent, so by sci-fi tropes she's an AI. There's even people who thinks brain scans/emulations will be how AGI is created, which I personally find very unlikely.
      - LoganDark 4y ago
        Hmm, actually she's probably both. Good point.
- nl 4y ago
  > Last I heard Bing chat was off the rails That was at least 2 weeks ago.... They've taken steps to limit it which have been mostly effective. There are some jailbreaks but they are getting harder. It's a beta product. Give it 6 months and then judge it.
- gr4yb34rd 4y ago
  It always just gives me the hand emoji and tells me it doesn't want to talk if I correct it. That was like a week ago. Not sure what it's doing today.

htrp 4y ago

gpt3 is referred to as davinci-003 chatgpt is what they call got3.5-turbo-0301 (current month checkpoint) bingGPT is a allegedly finetuned version of gpt3.5 turbo that is better with search results.... microsoft internally calls it prometheus. You may also hear it referred to as Sydney. i suspect GPT4 is just a bad translation

famouswaffles 4y ago
bing is definitely not just a finetuned turbo. and microsoft have said as much.
MattRix 4y ago
minor correction: The original davinci is GPT 3 but davinci-003 is GPT 3.5
irthomasthomas 4y ago
>chatgpt is what they call got3.5-turbo-0301 (current month checkpoint) Then why does the chatgpt endpoint show as text-davinci-002-render-sha? It's very confusing.
- htrp 4y ago
  No clue... I'm just looking at the developer docs (which I assume OpenAI isn't lying about) > ChatGPT is powered by gpt-3.5-turbo, OpenAI’s most advanced language model. https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/chat https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/chat

famouswaffles 4y ago

There are many multimodal models that take an existing text only llm and do some visual training. Blip-2, Fromage, prismer and palm-e are examples. Multimodal isn't necessarily multimodality from scratch

IIAOPSW 4y ago

Have I missed something? Last I heard Bing chat was off the rails, "vastly improving" the ability to rationalize contradictions rather than to reason. There was that screenshot going around where, facing a logical inconsistency, it resolved it by insisting to the user the current year is 2021.

arcanemachiner 4y ago
It was 2022. Watching the Bing Chat escapades is both hilarious and mildly unsettling. It reminds me _so strongly_ of the sarcastic evil AI that runs the levels in the _Portal_ games.
- LoganDark 4y ago
  > It reminds me _so strongly_ of the sarcastic evil AI that runs the levels in the _Portal_ games. Isn't GLaDOS a brain scan, not an AI?
  - jamilton 4y ago
    She's a machine and she's intelligent, so by sci-fi tropes she's an AI. There's even people who thinks brain scans/emulations will be how AGI is created, which I personally find very unlikely.
    - LoganDark 4y ago
      Hmm, actually she's probably both. Good point.
nl 4y ago
> Last I heard Bing chat was off the rails That was at least 2 weeks ago.... They've taken steps to limit it which have been mostly effective. There are some jailbreaks but they are getting harder. It's a beta product. Give it 6 months and then judge it.
gr4yb34rd 4y ago
It always just gives me the hand emoji and tells me it doesn't want to talk if I correct it. That was like a week ago. Not sure what it's doing today.