Both of you have good points. The world needs cheap energy to function. Renewables are becoming more capable by the day, and can/will be that source of cheap re

Both of you have good points. The world needs cheap energy to function. Renewables are becoming more capable by the day, and can/will be that source of cheap reliable energy. But the transition is not going to be instantaneous. If renewables are as cheaper/reliable/better as fossil fuel (and continually improving) the economic incentives will effectively push the transition as fast as is possible. The transition is supply constrained as much as anything. Production of solar, wind is rapidly growing, but it can only grow so quickly.