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They also believe the sin is the act not the desire. So from their perspective, being hetero-celibate and being homo-celibate is an equal sacrifice. A major c
by RC_ITR 4y ago
They also believe the sin is the act not the desire.
So from their perspective, being hetero-celibate and being homo-celibate is an equal sacrifice.
A major cited driver of a lot of the abuse was that exact line of thinking. Good intentioned people who knew they had bad desires would enter the Priesthood as a framework to not act on those desires, but then they see other Priests being sexually active and just give in.
It also built a network of secrecy - very fine line between covering up your bosses' non-abusive (but in your mind still morally wrong) affair and asking him to cover up your abusive (but in your mind, only equally as morally wrong) activities.
In general, it's one of the arguments for normalizing non-abusive fetishes in the general populace. The more secrecy there is generally, the more truly bad stuff gets covered up.
- mrguyorama 4y agoPlenty of american christians seem to think the desire is also a sin.
- jfengel 4y agoThat's largely a fundamentalist evangelical thing, and it's theologically dubious.
- ThunderSizzle 4y agoWhile Catholics may be Christians, it is disingenuous to assert this is the teaching of the Church or that a majority or plurality of faithful Catholics have this position. There is a very clear delineation between temptation and sin in the Catholic world.
- Connor_Creegan 4y agoDid you even read the article? These priests were on Grindr. That is different from experiencing temptation. "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matthew 5:28
- RC_ITR 4y agoCorinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.
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