no. I don't think you're wrong. I was just adding a counterpoint to the above. as an old lisp programmer I really think systems should be less opaque. make thi

no. I don't think you're wrong. I was just adding a counterpoint to the above. as an old lisp programmer I really think systems should be less opaque. make things accessible and simple and useful, but make it easy to keep unwrapping. rust disturbs that journey by #deriving over the underlying truth to make things simple. but when you have to crack that open its a lot stuff to digest. I don't think rust is _wrong_, I just think that value statement you just made should be more explicit. and maybe rust devotees shouldn't be so quick to tell you that your high level goal is incorrect because its something rust doesn't handle well.