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Fornication with women is a celibacy vow, but otherwise encouraged for the laity to reproduce and be fruitful and multiply. Homosexuality is, as mentioned, vi

by count 4y ago

Fornication with women is a celibacy vow, but otherwise encouraged for the laity to reproduce and be fruitful and multiply. Homosexuality is, as mentioned, viewed as an evil tendency or sin, rather than something to be encouraged, and thus is more serious on its own.

foldr 4y ago
Yes, this is what Catholics would say (with optional gay men = pedos dog whistles - see your sibling comment). It’s an explicitly homophobic rationale that depends on the assumption that being gay is worse than being straight. So while it sheds some light on the internal logic of Catholic homophobia, it’s hardly likely to reassure anyone who is worried that gay men are being singled out for unfair treatment. Rather, it explains exactly why this is occurring.
- kilgnad 4y ago
  Wow, what is this? You know about how many Catholics view pedophilia as equivalent to homosexuality and you had the gall to accuse me of being inflammatory in my other comment. You do have an agenda.
  - foldr 4y ago
    I was referring to this comment from a Catholic, which explicitly connects gay men with pedophilia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35084663 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35084663 Of course not all Catholics think this way, which is why I added the word 'optional'. None of this was in reference to you.
    - kilgnad 4y ago
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      - commoner 4y ago
        There is no evidence that homosexuality is a reliable predictor of pedersaty within the Catholic clergy. HN users making this accusation without evidence are not immune to criticism, just as Catholics who make this accusation without evidence are not immune to criticism. Your comments accusing other HN users of having "an agenda" are not consistent with this HN guideline: > Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by count 4y ago

foldr 4y ago

Yes, this is what Catholics would say (with optional gay men = pedos dog whistles - see your sibling comment). It’s an explicitly homophobic rationale that depends on the assumption that being gay is worse than being straight. So while it sheds some light on the internal logic of Catholic homophobia, it’s hardly likely to reassure anyone who is worried that gay men are being singled out for unfair treatment. Rather, it explains exactly why this is occurring.

kilgnad 4y ago
Wow, what is this? You know about how many Catholics view pedophilia as equivalent to homosexuality and you had the gall to accuse me of being inflammatory in my other comment. You do have an agenda.
- foldr 4y ago
  I was referring to this comment from a Catholic, which explicitly connects gay men with pedophilia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35084663 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35084663 Of course not all Catholics think this way, which is why I added the word 'optional'. None of this was in reference to you.
  - kilgnad 4y ago
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    - commoner 4y ago
      There is no evidence that homosexuality is a reliable predictor of pedersaty within the Catholic clergy. HN users making this accusation without evidence are not immune to criticism, just as Catholics who make this accusation without evidence are not immune to criticism. Your comments accusing other HN users of having "an agenda" are not consistent with this HN guideline: > Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html