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I'm not sure if this is going to forestall or foment heated discussion about what is or isn't a sandwich, but it's certainly an attempt to codify what constitut

I'm not sure if this is going to forestall or foment heated discussion about what is or isn't a sandwich, but it's certainly an attempt to codify what constitutes sandwichness: https://cuberule.com/ https://cuberule.com/

boringg 4y ago
hot dogs and burritos are sandwiches right?
- kzrdude 4y ago
  A burrito is a calzone in the cube rule system, but I'd rather rename that class to burrito.
  - entropicdrifter 4y ago
    Agreed. Though oddly that does qualify a corn dog as a burrito on a stick
- gen220 4y ago
  All according to cube rule: Hot dogs are categorically tacos. Burritos typically begin life as a "calzone", but experience most of their brief lives through the lens of a "soup/salad in a bread bowl". Sometimes people prefer to fold a burrito into the "sushi" pattern. Depends on your mental image of a burrito.
  - melenaboija 4y ago
    Humanity and its culture can't get stuck because of these outdated and despotic rules. It has been a while since I feel hot dogs started transitioning into quiche. https://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-10-20-1445353534-3895367-HotDogs_3.jpeg https://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-10-20-1445353534-3895...
foobarian 4y ago
We would be remiss not to bring up the sandwich alignment chart: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlignmentCharts/comments/83l9jy/sandwich_alignment_chart/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AlignmentCharts/comments/83l9jy/san...
- bell-cot 4y ago
  Yet even their "Anarchist" (lower right) square has a rectangular item of food, with a starchy, finger-friendly exterior around a less starchy & finger-friendly interior. Vs. a chart with chocolate-covered cherries, ceiling tiles, and such...
  - entropicdrifter 4y ago
    Agreed. One point of contention I've seen before is the question of whether a piece of fried chicken with breading is a sandwich. Personally I argue that it is not, because the batter is cooked for the first time on the chicken itself. The starchy finger-friendly exterior should be fully edible before the construction of a sandwich. You could argue, however, that a piece of fried chicken with breading is technically a meat bun.
    - Loughla 4y ago
      I mean, it really depends on the breading, though. Panko, for example, could be already cooked before breading the chicken. So, I guess a flour breaded fried chicken could be a ravioli whereas a panko breaded fried chicken could be a sandwich.
      - bell-cot 4y ago
        I will proclaim that the finger-friendly exterior is important, but the order in which the outside vs. contents are added/cooked/finished/whatever is not. So well-breaded chicken is. Likewise a two-crusted pie. But a ravioli is not a sandwich.
- capableweb 4y ago
j-kent 4y ago
There’s no such thing as a sandwich (phylogenetically)
- tantalor 4y ago
  There's no such thing as phylogeny (sandwichly)
- handsclean 4y ago
  Sure there is, you just need to look at the evolution of language, not DNA. The common ancestor is a meal eaten by the Earl of Sandwich in the 1760s, “salt beef between two slices of toasted bread”.
Keegs 4y ago
I’m a big fan of the cube rule except for its salad category. The idea that a frittata and a bowl of tomato soup are equivalent is hard to swallow (pun intended).
dylan604 4y ago
when has any comment posted publicly to the internet forestalled heated discussion?
sonicrocketman 4y ago
Sandwiches are but one part of the equation! For full context see the taxonomic definition of Sandwich (domain Catino, kingdom Cincta). https://iifrp.org/rfc/RFC-5.html https://iifrp.org/rfc/RFC-5.html (disclaimer, I wrote this spec)
cool_dude85 4y ago
I subscribe to the fringe "four foods theory": 1) Substance - Indivisible, elemental food. Example: Vanilla ice cream, no toppings 2) Pizza - Monobreadular, arranged. Example: Nigiri sushi 3) Sandwich - Multibreadular, arranged. Example: Big Mac 4) Salad - Separable, not arranged. Example: Salad with croutons
- JohnFen 4y ago
  What is lasagna? It doesn't seem to easily fit in any of those categories, although it's clearly not a "substance".
  - cool_dude85 4y ago
    Sandwich, as it is multibreadular and arranged.

boringg 4y ago

hot dogs and burritos are sandwiches right?

kzrdude 4y ago
A burrito is a calzone in the cube rule system, but I'd rather rename that class to burrito.
- entropicdrifter 4y ago
  Agreed. Though oddly that does qualify a corn dog as a burrito on a stick
gen220 4y ago
All according to cube rule: Hot dogs are categorically tacos. Burritos typically begin life as a "calzone", but experience most of their brief lives through the lens of a "soup/salad in a bread bowl". Sometimes people prefer to fold a burrito into the "sushi" pattern. Depends on your mental image of a burrito.
- melenaboija 4y ago
  Humanity and its culture can't get stuck because of these outdated and despotic rules. It has been a while since I feel hot dogs started transitioning into quiche. https://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-10-20-1445353534-3895367-HotDogs_3.jpeg https://images.huffingtonpost.com/2015-10-20-1445353534-3895...

foobarian 4y ago

We would be remiss not to bring up the sandwich alignment chart: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlignmentCharts/comments/83l9jy/sandwich_alignment_chart/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AlignmentCharts/comments/83l9jy/san...

bell-cot 4y ago
Yet even their "Anarchist" (lower right) square has a rectangular item of food, with a starchy, finger-friendly exterior around a less starchy & finger-friendly interior. Vs. a chart with chocolate-covered cherries, ceiling tiles, and such...
- entropicdrifter 4y ago
  Agreed. One point of contention I've seen before is the question of whether a piece of fried chicken with breading is a sandwich. Personally I argue that it is not, because the batter is cooked for the first time on the chicken itself. The starchy finger-friendly exterior should be fully edible before the construction of a sandwich. You could argue, however, that a piece of fried chicken with breading is technically a meat bun.
  - Loughla 4y ago
    I mean, it really depends on the breading, though. Panko, for example, could be already cooked before breading the chicken. So, I guess a flour breaded fried chicken could be a ravioli whereas a panko breaded fried chicken could be a sandwich.
    - bell-cot 4y ago
      I will proclaim that the finger-friendly exterior is important, but the order in which the outside vs. contents are added/cooked/finished/whatever is not. So well-breaded chicken is. Likewise a two-crusted pie. But a ravioli is not a sandwich.
capableweb 4y ago

j-kent 4y ago

There’s no such thing as a sandwich (phylogenetically)

tantalor 4y ago
There's no such thing as phylogeny (sandwichly)
handsclean 4y ago
Sure there is, you just need to look at the evolution of language, not DNA. The common ancestor is a meal eaten by the Earl of Sandwich in the 1760s, “salt beef between two slices of toasted bread”.

Keegs 4y ago

I’m a big fan of the cube rule except for its salad category. The idea that a frittata and a bowl of tomato soup are equivalent is hard to swallow (pun intended).

dylan604 4y ago

when has any comment posted publicly to the internet forestalled heated discussion?

sonicrocketman 4y ago

Sandwiches are but one part of the equation! For full context see the taxonomic definition of Sandwich (domain Catino, kingdom Cincta). https://iifrp.org/rfc/RFC-5.html https://iifrp.org/rfc/RFC-5.html (disclaimer, I wrote this spec)

cool_dude85 4y ago

I subscribe to the fringe "four foods theory": 1) Substance - Indivisible, elemental food. Example: Vanilla ice cream, no toppings 2) Pizza - Monobreadular, arranged. Example: Nigiri sushi 3) Sandwich - Multibreadular, arranged. Example: Big Mac 4) Salad - Separable, not arranged. Example: Salad with croutons

JohnFen 4y ago
What is lasagna? It doesn't seem to easily fit in any of those categories, although it's clearly not a "substance".
- cool_dude85 4y ago
  Sandwich, as it is multibreadular and arranged.