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For some reason, my Jellyfin and Navidrome instances doesn't use Widevine (garbageware) in any way. Radarr, Lidarr, Sonarr, and the other Arrs work beautifully

For some reason, my Jellyfin and Navidrome instances doesn't use Widevine (garbageware) in any way. Radarr, Lidarr, Sonarr, and the other Arrs work beautifully to control what media I want, get it, and store it appropriately. And the files I download from Usenet and Torrents work on any platform powerful enough to play them. I was treated like a criminal when legitimately buying media years ago. Already learned https://xkcd.com/488/ https://xkcd.com/488/ this lesson.

mattl 4y ago
> I was treated like a criminal when legitimately buying media years ago. What happened?
- bionade24 4y ago
  > What happened? Isn't that obvious? Circumventing the copy protection of your own property is a crime.
  - mattl 4y ago
    Not obvious, sorry.
  - zamnos 4y ago
    Yeah but so is speeding on the freeway. People do that all day long and never gets ticket. Other times, people actually get arrested they were speeding so fast. So I ask again, did something actually happen? Did the FBI/whomever show up at your door and someone went to prison? Or is it just that format shifting got deemed illegal and now we're all running around scared?
    - bionade24 4y ago
      This is different, because we don't have lasting evidence (yet). If circumvent a B-Ray's copy protection some person knowing I ripped them could still report me years after.
- tarotuser 4y ago
  A collection of media, that was conveyed as a purchase, was really a DRM locked rental. After the Microsoft auth servers were taken down, all the music went up in smoke. I was hundreds of dollars poorer and nothing to show for it. After that, sure, I'll buy tickets to attend shows and other 'people doing cool stuff on stage'. But buying DRM music, videos, and games are out of the question. I'm not going to throw more money to a badly described rental that's masquerading as a sale. Now, I have bought music and videos in recent years. But those discs go to my reader and converted to their respective formats for Jellyfin/Navidrome handling. But in 20 years, those discs will still work. The DRM crap won't. (And if Microsoft can't manage to keep up DRM servers for a decade or longer, I'd argue nobody can.)
yamtaddle 4y ago
> Navidrome Thank you. The two things I don't like having in Jellyfin are music and youtube videos (the latter are a real PITA if what you've ripped doesn't have a TVDB entry, which, fortunately, some Youtube series do—yeah, there's a 3rd party plugin to help out, but it's so unhelpful I stopped using it completely, broke other stuff, very fiddly, not worth it) This gives me what looks to be a much-better solution for at least one of those. Looks like I'll be adding another docker container to my server this evening.
- tarotuser 4y ago
  Glad I could help with a recommendation. I find it handles around 2TB of music very handily. The playlist handling is "weird", but simple. Basically, just take winamp or audacious, make a playlist using it, and then save the playlist in the root of your music dir. Auto-imports. And Navidrome also uses subsonic as its API, so there's at least 10 apps that'll natively use it. And there's a bunch of compatible hardware as well. Now, Navidrome isn't good for handling Youtube videos. To that, I do find Jellyfin to be useful.... but in conjunction with this plugin: https://github.com/ankenyr/jellyfin-youtube-metadata-plugin https://github.com/ankenyr/jellyfin-youtube-metadata-plugin . From that plugin, you can pull all the metadata from a YT video.

mattl 4y ago

> I was treated like a criminal when legitimately buying media years ago. What happened?

bionade24 4y ago
> What happened? Isn't that obvious? Circumventing the copy protection of your own property is a crime.
- mattl 4y ago
  Not obvious, sorry.
- zamnos 4y ago
  Yeah but so is speeding on the freeway. People do that all day long and never gets ticket. Other times, people actually get arrested they were speeding so fast. So I ask again, did something actually happen? Did the FBI/whomever show up at your door and someone went to prison? Or is it just that format shifting got deemed illegal and now we're all running around scared?
  - bionade24 4y ago
    This is different, because we don't have lasting evidence (yet). If circumvent a B-Ray's copy protection some person knowing I ripped them could still report me years after.
tarotuser 4y ago
A collection of media, that was conveyed as a purchase, was really a DRM locked rental. After the Microsoft auth servers were taken down, all the music went up in smoke. I was hundreds of dollars poorer and nothing to show for it. After that, sure, I'll buy tickets to attend shows and other 'people doing cool stuff on stage'. But buying DRM music, videos, and games are out of the question. I'm not going to throw more money to a badly described rental that's masquerading as a sale. Now, I have bought music and videos in recent years. But those discs go to my reader and converted to their respective formats for Jellyfin/Navidrome handling. But in 20 years, those discs will still work. The DRM crap won't. (And if Microsoft can't manage to keep up DRM servers for a decade or longer, I'd argue nobody can.)

yamtaddle 4y ago

> Navidrome Thank you. The two things I don't like having in Jellyfin are music and youtube videos (the latter are a real PITA if what you've ripped doesn't have a TVDB entry, which, fortunately, some Youtube series do—yeah, there's a 3rd party plugin to help out, but it's so unhelpful I stopped using it completely, broke other stuff, very fiddly, not worth it) This gives me what looks to be a much-better solution for at least one of those. Looks like I'll be adding another docker container to my server this evening.

tarotuser 4y ago
Glad I could help with a recommendation. I find it handles around 2TB of music very handily. The playlist handling is "weird", but simple. Basically, just take winamp or audacious, make a playlist using it, and then save the playlist in the root of your music dir. Auto-imports. And Navidrome also uses subsonic as its API, so there's at least 10 apps that'll natively use it. And there's a bunch of compatible hardware as well. Now, Navidrome isn't good for handling Youtube videos. To that, I do find Jellyfin to be useful.... but in conjunction with this plugin: https://github.com/ankenyr/jellyfin-youtube-metadata-plugin https://github.com/ankenyr/jellyfin-youtube-metadata-plugin . From that plugin, you can pull all the metadata from a YT video.