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This is why I only use service A for domains. And service B for emails.
by WirelessGigabit 4y ago
This is why I only use service A for domains. And service B for emails.
- KingOfCoders 4y agoI use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.
- Idiot_in_Vain 4y agoHow do you prove to service B that you own the domain?
- rcme 4y agoYou usually need to update the name servers with service A to point to service B.
- zenexer 4y agoYou don’t need to. Your registrar tells the registry which nameservers you’ve chosen. You specify the nameservers that belong to your DNS provider, which causes DNS clients to query that DNS provider. There’s nothing stopping you from paying for service with a DNS provider for a domain you don’t own, but nobody will actually query those nameservers for your domain, so it doesn’t matter.
- aidenn0 4y agoI reached that by accident. Service B for DNS was just a more pleasant product to use than service A, and service A didn't offer certain features I needed for emails. To bring it back on topic, this made it easy when I switched service A from Gandi to something else a year or two ago because a few things I was seeing from them "smelled funny." I don't remember the details, just that I wanted to switch.
- imwillofficial 4y agoSame, swapped over to PorkBun. Much more pleasant experience.
- yepguy 4y agoDNSControl[1] or another similar tool also helps a lot when moving. My DNS records are configured by a small JavaScript file in a git repository, and I can very easily point it at another DNS provider. [1]: https://dnscontrol.org/ https://dnscontrol.org/
- mike_ivanov 4y agoCould you disclose what B is? Pretty much please?
- KingOfCoders 4y agoDNS Made Easy - perhaps too costly now, and not the best, but I use them since 10 years and had no issue with them. But might be oversized, I've started to use them for a startup b/c they had failover to point to another load balancer if one balancer/data center is down.
- Spoom 4y agoI've been using ZoneEdit for years, and they have a limited free tier. It's been great for my admittedly tiny use cases.
- soiler 4y agoWhich services do you use specifically?
- KingOfCoders 4y agoNamecheap (I want to get off) and DNS Made Easy (I've started to use them with our startup for reliability)
- soiler 4y agoHuh, I've been happy with Namecheap for a few years now. But I never looked that hard.
- duiker101 4y agoSuggestions for service B? Every single service I can find always seems such a pain to go in and add a subdomain and change something.
- basch 4y agoIf you just care about user interface, Cloudflare is pretty stellar.
- doodlesdev 4y agoHonestly I think it depends where you are deploying to. I was previously using Netlify DNS for instance since most of my domains had static websites hosted on Netlify, this meant that they could manage quite a lot of records for me, I was also a fan of having CNAME-flattening which isn't available at domains.google (for reference I'm using the .dev TLD which is owned by the Google Registrar), but I've recently switched to using Google's name servers and even though I have to use a hard coded IP for the Netlify load balancer and I lost CNAME flattening I'm pretty the DNS requests are going MUCH faster (as in a few tens of milliseconds faster LOL). The reason I'm using Google's name server is because Netlify DNS doesn't support DNSSEC which for me is simply absurd in 2023. Anyways, if you don't have a specific reason to pick any specific nameserver go with the easiest one or if you want to have the most features and portability go with Cloudflare.
- tptacek 4y agoAlmost none of the most popular/important zones on the Internet aren't signed, so there is little impetus for providers to support DNSSEC. IPv6 is a more annoying lapse.
- ipaddr 4y agoDigitalocean.
- tracker1 4y agoSame.. API access is pretty nice too... I run a simple script for dyndns at home.
- hartator 4y agoI use service A for domains, service B for DNS, service C for emails, and service D for WHOIS privacy protections.
- Macha 4y agoI have this, but it's not quite as fully seperated out, as server B is also my server host.
- j45 4y agoAlways separate vendors for separate services. Choices of convenience will always be waiting in the future. Choosing a path that is not the most convenient (just slightly less) can go a long way.
- j45 4y agoAdditionally, DevOps is actually scarier than self-hosting, or self-managing the hosting yourself. Wherever you register a domain, make sure you practice transferring a domain in, and then out well in advance of ever needing it.
- r3trohack3r 4y agoThis is why I live in a society that enforces contracts through a court system. In a functioning society you can’t sell someone a year worth of prepaid car washes and then decide they need to start paying you again 3 months into your contract. Will be interesting to see if this touches the courts and, if so, how it plays out.
- ryandrake 4y agoContracts are only as good as the wealth, power, and ability you have to fight in court and ensure they get enforced. Which is why they 1. usually have lopsided boilerplate terms that protect only the powerful party, 2. are usually largely written by the wealthy, powerful corporation, and 3. usually only enforced against the relatively powerless consumer. In the ideal fantasy world, contracts are supposed to be "meeting of the minds" between parties of equal power and benefitting parties equally. But when I think of "contract" today, I immediately think "weapon used by a company to beat up a consumer".
- Macha 4y agoDepending on how many domains he's registered and how much the value of that service for the remaining years is, this may be eligible for small claims.
- falcolas 4y agoSeeing how Nintendo and the courts screwed around with the stick drift class action lawsuit (the parents can’t be in the class since their kids use it, yet the parents were the ones bound by the forced arbitration), and how clickwrap EULAs have become largely accepted as fully binding in courts… 100% this
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> when I think of "contract" today, I immediately think "weapon used by a company to beat up a consumer" This view is unsupported by the facts in all competent jurisdictions. It’s a convenient one, however, for certain people to spread.