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Also related, one of my favorite philosophy papers: Vehicles and Crashes: Why is this Moral Issue Overlooked? by Douglas Husak Argues that SUVs are immoral bec

by yboris 4y ago

Also related, one of my favorite philosophy papers: Vehicles and Crashes: Why is this Moral Issue Overlooked? by Douglas Husak Argues that SUVs are immoral because of the high crash incompatibility. They cause more damage to others (disproportionally), and ironically don't provide more safety for drivers due to higher rollover instances. https://www.jstor.org/stable/23562447 https://www.jstor.org/stable/23562447

Swizec 4y ago
> be cause of the high crash incompatibility Not sure about USA, but Europe started requiring crash compatibility some time in the mid 2000’s. EuroNCAP now specifically tests cars crashing into each other, not just into barriers. The result is that European small cars have tall noses and European SUVs have fronts that go pretty low. Because the internal crash structures have to overlap. Here’s an example where they test even a “commercial van” for crash compatibility with normal cars https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/61174/euro-ncap-compatibility-test-summary-report.pdf https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/61174/euro-ncap-compatibility... Here’s a paper from EEVC (european enhanced vehicle safety committee) developing a crash compatibility test https://www-esv.nhtsa.dot.gov/Proceedings/20/07-0331-O.pdf https://www-esv.nhtsa.dot.gov/Proceedings/20/07-0331-O.pdf
- yboris 4y ago
  Author writes about the US as far as I can tell. The US is behind Europe in numerous ways - it's a shame. I find it amusing how tiny trucks are in Japan - they are often smaller than regular US SUVs that moms drive kids to school in.
  - Swizec 4y ago
    > The US is behind Europe in numerous ways The craziest to me is seeing how many blatantly illegal cars are driving around every day. There’s no annual technical inspection to pass. Most of the customized cars/trucks/bikes you see would never pass homologation. I mean even just the sleek LED blinkers on my bike would be impossible back home …

by yboris 4y ago

Swizec 4y ago

> be cause of the high crash incompatibility Not sure about USA, but Europe started requiring crash compatibility some time in the mid 2000’s. EuroNCAP now specifically tests cars crashing into each other, not just into barriers. The result is that European small cars have tall noses and European SUVs have fronts that go pretty low. Because the internal crash structures have to overlap. Here’s an example where they test even a “commercial van” for crash compatibility with normal cars https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/61174/euro-ncap-compatibility-test-summary-report.pdf https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/61174/euro-ncap-compatibility... Here’s a paper from EEVC (european enhanced vehicle safety committee) developing a crash compatibility test https://www-esv.nhtsa.dot.gov/Proceedings/20/07-0331-O.pdf https://www-esv.nhtsa.dot.gov/Proceedings/20/07-0331-O.pdf

yboris 4y ago
Author writes about the US as far as I can tell. The US is behind Europe in numerous ways - it's a shame. I find it amusing how tiny trucks are in Japan - they are often smaller than regular US SUVs that moms drive kids to school in.
- Swizec 4y ago
  > The US is behind Europe in numerous ways The craziest to me is seeing how many blatantly illegal cars are driving around every day. There’s no annual technical inspection to pass. Most of the customized cars/trucks/bikes you see would never pass homologation. I mean even just the sleek LED blinkers on my bike would be impossible back home …