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I tried playing it a while ago, and it was just really boring at the start, I couldn't push through it. There was no idea of what my goal was, there was no expl

by rbits 4y ago

I tried playing it a while ago, and it was just really boring at the start, I couldn't push through it. There was no idea of what my goal was, there was no explanation of what was happening or an idea of how I'm supposed to find more information. It was just "this person died, and there's no info on who they are" a bunch. I assume it gets better, so I'll probably give it another try soon, but yeah, the start of the game didn't hook me

danpalmer 4y ago
How long did you play it? I think the "intro" is designed to show the core gameplay loop quite explicitly – find a dead body, see the vision of the past, find another, see a clue, find a third, put 1/2/3 together and know what happened, and have that confirmed by the game. This took me 15-20 mins while reading the tutorial and notebook content and at the end it was pretty clear to me what came next. I've seen similar experiences in reviews of the game. If you quit before the end of that loop it would be pretty unclear, but it's fairly short so do try to push through. If you did complete that and aren't hooked, that's fine, maybe it's not your sort of thing. If you completed the loop and didn't understand what was going on then it might be worth playing through it again and taking more time to read the instructions as it's all fairly explicit.
- rbits 4y ago
  Yeah no I didn't play it much, cause I just wasn't motivated. I will try it again some time though
NineStarPoint 4y ago
It’s essentially one of those “Alice, Mary, And Bob could be at one of three locations” puzzles, just with more than 70 people, a much more complex set of things for the locations, and instead of simple sentences as clues you have last words and frozen movements in time as your clues. The way the game sets up its clues is brilliant but ultimately that sort of game isn’t for everyone. You do have to figure out a lot from small bits of information.
- the_af 4y ago
  Which game is "for everyone" though? Pac-man? Lots of people hate pac-man and similar twitch-based games. Bejeweled and its clones? Would I really want Lukas Pope to be making Bejeweled clones?
  - NineStarPoint 4y ago
    I don’t know why “isn’t for everyone” is shorthand for “is something only a small subset of the population will enjoy”, in American English, but for some reason it is. And no, I’d rather people make extremely interesting games that will be 10/10s for the people who love them and 5/10s for everyone else. (And as a person who loves both paper puzzles and puzzle video games, I love Obra Dinn) Just wanted the person who made that comment to understand why it’s a game a lot of people will bounce off of.
    - the_af 4y ago
      Got it! I misunderstood your comment. We are in agreement then!

by rbits 4y ago

danpalmer 4y ago

How long did you play it? I think the "intro" is designed to show the core gameplay loop quite explicitly – find a dead body, see the vision of the past, find another, see a clue, find a third, put 1/2/3 together and know what happened, and have that confirmed by the game. This took me 15-20 mins while reading the tutorial and notebook content and at the end it was pretty clear to me what came next. I've seen similar experiences in reviews of the game. If you quit before the end of that loop it would be pretty unclear, but it's fairly short so do try to push through. If you did complete that and aren't hooked, that's fine, maybe it's not your sort of thing. If you completed the loop and didn't understand what was going on then it might be worth playing through it again and taking more time to read the instructions as it's all fairly explicit.

rbits 4y ago
Yeah no I didn't play it much, cause I just wasn't motivated. I will try it again some time though

NineStarPoint 4y ago

It’s essentially one of those “Alice, Mary, And Bob could be at one of three locations” puzzles, just with more than 70 people, a much more complex set of things for the locations, and instead of simple sentences as clues you have last words and frozen movements in time as your clues. The way the game sets up its clues is brilliant but ultimately that sort of game isn’t for everyone. You do have to figure out a lot from small bits of information.

the_af 4y ago
Which game is "for everyone" though? Pac-man? Lots of people hate pac-man and similar twitch-based games. Bejeweled and its clones? Would I really want Lukas Pope to be making Bejeweled clones?
- NineStarPoint 4y ago
  I don’t know why “isn’t for everyone” is shorthand for “is something only a small subset of the population will enjoy”, in American English, but for some reason it is. And no, I’d rather people make extremely interesting games that will be 10/10s for the people who love them and 5/10s for everyone else. (And as a person who loves both paper puzzles and puzzle video games, I love Obra Dinn) Just wanted the person who made that comment to understand why it’s a game a lot of people will bounce off of.
  - the_af 4y ago
    Got it! I misunderstood your comment. We are in agreement then!