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People like you are literally the enemy of free speech. Controversial things are not hateful things, that’s why it’s called controversial in the first place and

People like you are literally the enemy of free speech. Controversial things are not hateful things, that’s why it’s called controversial in the first place and not hateful. Labelling things which go against the mainstream narrative as possibly hateful is a huge jump to make out of nowhere and really does nothing good other than trying to suppress any critical thinking.

DemocracyFTW2 4y ago
I think you just mistook the quote for the opinion. Parent wanted to express that "some people say that their words are 'controversial' and therefore OK when in truth their words qualify as hate speech". It is the trolls and so on who mislabel things, a practice the parent disapproves of, and rightly so.
codeptualize 4y ago
I did not make that jump, I said "often" controversial is used for hateful speech which is true, and I specifically clarified that I was not assuming this was the case here. The reason I had to include it is that the original comment refers to "censorship", doesn't mean it is, but it's not that far fetched to think it could be. That distinction is relevant to the question as the reaction to a controversial take, something that's likely to cause disagreement, is very different from the reaction to hateful speech. If it's not the case here; great! If you read the rest of my comment I mostly say it's totally fine to have controversial opinions. At the end, albeit in jest, I even refer to my own controversies. It is true though, I often disagree with people on many topics, but I have not been censored. My main point through all of it is that free speech is not free from consequences, everything one does has consequences, positive or negative. Expecting everyone to just embrace and except everything is just not realistic also not fair. Say what you need to say, but also expect people to react.

DemocracyFTW2 4y ago

I think you just mistook the quote for the opinion. Parent wanted to express that "some people say that their words are 'controversial' and therefore OK when in truth their words qualify as hate speech". It is the trolls and so on who mislabel things, a practice the parent disapproves of, and rightly so.

codeptualize 4y ago

I did not make that jump, I said "often" controversial is used for hateful speech which is true, and I specifically clarified that I was not assuming this was the case here. The reason I had to include it is that the original comment refers to "censorship", doesn't mean it is, but it's not that far fetched to think it could be. That distinction is relevant to the question as the reaction to a controversial take, something that's likely to cause disagreement, is very different from the reaction to hateful speech. If it's not the case here; great! If you read the rest of my comment I mostly say it's totally fine to have controversial opinions. At the end, albeit in jest, I even refer to my own controversies. It is true though, I often disagree with people on many topics, but I have not been censored. My main point through all of it is that free speech is not free from consequences, everything one does has consequences, positive or negative. Expecting everyone to just embrace and except everything is just not realistic also not fair. Say what you need to say, but also expect people to react.