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Heh, cstross even has a "conspiracy" theory about that sudden shift: https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2023/02/place-your-bets.html https://www.anti

Heh, cstross even has a "conspiracy" theory about that sudden shift: https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2023/02/place-your-bets.html https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2023/02/place-y... (Which I don't buy)

elkos 4y ago
There are some pretty interesting ideas there. I had a conversation with a friend the other day and the whole blockchain then, AI now thing reminded me of a saying about shelling “Picks and Shovels during a Gold Rush”. I think it is intriguing that GPUs are the “picks and shovels” of both the Blockchain Rush and the AI Rush. One could point out conspiracies and PR, another could point out that the as GPUs become more general compute tools, new applications will emerge.
cloudking 4y ago
It takes about 5 minutes playing with ChatGPT to realize it has real time saving value, seems like author hasn't really tried to use it in their work. While I agree there is a hype bubble forming, I disagree with the premise that it only produces garbage.
- shanusmagnus 4y ago
  That's my beef with most of the critical takes. Yeah, it has some warts, but an hour playing with the thing, for both broader chat interaction and writing code, make the value evident, and startling.
- AnotherGoodName 4y ago
  The obvious thing is that we'll finally get voice assistants that can do more than pre-programmed tasks. Right now I can basically ask my home assistant "what's the time/weather" and "play some music". Anything else returns "i don't understand". I can see ChatGPT has huge potential here to give at least somewhat sane voice assistant responses.
  - gsatic 4y ago
    That's not because voice recognition doesnt work. It's been working quite well for 15 years now. Just ask the Deaf community. The issue is even if the error rate is 1 in 100 and you scale that up to a billion users supporting thousands of use cases, you then need to maintain a large army of people to manually handle those errors. Its a huge cost to even the largest firms. Very similar to what Facebook/Twitter/Youtube end up doing to handle content moderation. The faster systems scale the faster you get swamped with bugs you don't have bandwidth to fix. The consequences begin to multiply. Your basic Jurassic Park story plays out.
    - AnotherGoodName 4y ago
      I mean it returns "i don't understand" in terms of context. "Who played bond in that film Goldensomething?" "I don't understand." ChatGPT on the other hand returns "you're thinking of Goldeneye, where Bond was played by Pierce Brosnan"
urbanhole 4y ago
I think indeed it’s not a conspiracy theory but just an observation of what might be happening that requires no collusion, just individual greed. (I hence appreciated the quotes). I am also not sure it’s so simple; the tools are so much more powerful than I would have believed just a couple years ago. But there’s value and then there’s perceived value; the fact that there’s so much nontechnical interest is perhaps suspect.
rideontime 4y ago
That’s not conspiracy theory, that’s Occam’s Razor in action. It is very obviously the same people pumping this.

elkos 4y ago

There are some pretty interesting ideas there. I had a conversation with a friend the other day and the whole blockchain then, AI now thing reminded me of a saying about shelling “Picks and Shovels during a Gold Rush”. I think it is intriguing that GPUs are the “picks and shovels” of both the Blockchain Rush and the AI Rush. One could point out conspiracies and PR, another could point out that the as GPUs become more general compute tools, new applications will emerge.

cloudking 4y ago

It takes about 5 minutes playing with ChatGPT to realize it has real time saving value, seems like author hasn't really tried to use it in their work. While I agree there is a hype bubble forming, I disagree with the premise that it only produces garbage.

shanusmagnus 4y ago
That's my beef with most of the critical takes. Yeah, it has some warts, but an hour playing with the thing, for both broader chat interaction and writing code, make the value evident, and startling.
AnotherGoodName 4y ago
The obvious thing is that we'll finally get voice assistants that can do more than pre-programmed tasks. Right now I can basically ask my home assistant "what's the time/weather" and "play some music". Anything else returns "i don't understand". I can see ChatGPT has huge potential here to give at least somewhat sane voice assistant responses.
- gsatic 4y ago
  That's not because voice recognition doesnt work. It's been working quite well for 15 years now. Just ask the Deaf community. The issue is even if the error rate is 1 in 100 and you scale that up to a billion users supporting thousands of use cases, you then need to maintain a large army of people to manually handle those errors. Its a huge cost to even the largest firms. Very similar to what Facebook/Twitter/Youtube end up doing to handle content moderation. The faster systems scale the faster you get swamped with bugs you don't have bandwidth to fix. The consequences begin to multiply. Your basic Jurassic Park story plays out.
  - AnotherGoodName 4y ago
    I mean it returns "i don't understand" in terms of context. "Who played bond in that film Goldensomething?" "I don't understand." ChatGPT on the other hand returns "you're thinking of Goldeneye, where Bond was played by Pierce Brosnan"

urbanhole 4y ago

I think indeed it’s not a conspiracy theory but just an observation of what might be happening that requires no collusion, just individual greed. (I hence appreciated the quotes). I am also not sure it’s so simple; the tools are so much more powerful than I would have believed just a couple years ago. But there’s value and then there’s perceived value; the fact that there’s so much nontechnical interest is perhaps suspect.

rideontime 4y ago

That’s not conspiracy theory, that’s Occam’s Razor in action. It is very obviously the same people pumping this.