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A bit apples and oranges, isn't it? Intel has been having trouble fabbing. AMD was having trouble designing. Keller et al designed a hell of a chip with Ryze
by silisili 4y ago
A bit apples and oranges, isn't it? Intel has been having trouble fabbing. AMD was having trouble designing. Keller et al designed a hell of a chip with Ryzen, then threw it to TSMC to produce. Intel probably could have done the same, but for the sake of having a competitive home grown fab, I'm glad they didn't.
- ac29 4y agoAMD also had trouble fabbing. They didnt spin out their fabs until 2009 and continued to use manufacturing from the spun out entity (Global Foundries) for many years after that despite their capabilities being behind Intel and TSMC. Ryzen manufacturing didnt move to TSMC until 2019 with Zen 2.
- silisili 4y agoIIRC, AMD going with TSMC happened around the time GloFo said they're not going to do cutting edge anymore. Makes me wonder exactly what happened there. Did GloFo hit trouble and give up? Did AMD tell them they weren't going to use them anymore, leading to them giving up? Basically, who dumped who?
- beebeepka 4y agoI think AMD dumped GF. The first two Zen line ups (1000/2000) clearly used an interior process.